Originally posted by Bashar Teg
not here. put a federal ban on both fascism in all it's rebranded forms, and anti-fascism as well to coddle the white supremacists, just like in nj. sure the antifa banning would be meaningless, but overall the problem is solved so screw it. 🙂
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we have no nazi rallies, and antifa [by some f*cking crazy coincidence] never seemed to be a problem here either.
This wasn't a Nazi rally...
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we have no nazi rallies, and antifa [by some f*cking crazy coincidence] never seemed to be a problem here either.
i'll reword it for you: in new jersey, antifa never really was an issue. i concluded that this is because new jersey does not allow nazi rallies. far out, huh?
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol okay man, I'll change the angle. All but one state lists them as terrorists(New Jersey is the state). If tomorrow that changed to 100% of states listing them, would it be a decision you agree with?
Correction: Only one state lists them as such; New Jersey.
And unless or until the federal government designates them a domestic terrorist group, I do not know that it is proper to categorize them that way.
Perhaps the group in New Jersey is deserving of the designation, but when one of the chapters of Operation Rescue bombed an abortion clinic, the others were not immediately classified as terrorists.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i'll reword it for you: in new jersey, antifa never really was an issue. i concluded that this is because new jersey does not allow nazi rallies. far out, huh?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Correction: Only one state lists them as such; New Jersey.And unless or until the federal government designates them a domestic terrorist group, I do not know that it is proper to categorize them that way.
Perhaps the group in New Jersey is deserving of the designation, but when one of the chapters of Operation Rescue bombed an abortion clinic, the others were not immediately classified as terrorists.
Originally posted by darthgoober
They had to leave the park because of the fighting, and they were getting attacked as they exited. Don't get me wrong the Nazi is a piece of shit, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong to point out that there was another group of assholes who contributed to the whole thing.
That has dick to do with peaceful protesters holding a counter-demonstration at a different location.
Anyone who left the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park to escape violence rather than engage in it did the right thing.
But nothing about that scenario compels them to then go downtown where the peaceful protestors were, to precipitate the very violence they were attempting to flee.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That has dick to do with peaceful protesters holding a counter-demonstration at a different location.Anyone who left the Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park to escape violence rather than engage in it did the right thing.
But nothing about that scenario compels them to then go downtown where the peaceful protestors were, to precipitate the very violence they were attempting to flee.
Originally posted by darthgoober
You mean you can't read the definition of terrorism and form an opinion based on that?
Anti-Fa is simply an abbreviation for anti-fascist.
Anti-Fa cannot be said to be an organization any more than an ideology such as Communism or a tactic such as picketing can be said to be a specific group.
Anti-Fa are autonomous and not interconnected.
Some monitor racist groups and track Neo Nazi activities. Others pressure venues to cancel white power events. Some unmask and expose the activities of small groups of local racists. And still others resort to physical violence.
Anti-Fa is just a label adopted by different ad hoc groups. It is not a thing with a fixed identity you can outlaw or put on a watch list.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I know, that's why he's a peace of shit. Doesn't change the fact that there's nothing wrong with pointing out there was another group getting violent that day who needs to be dealt with. Not condemning that group right along with the Nazis encourages more of that kind of behavior from them.
There is when it is an attempt to deflect, minimize, and justify a one-sided violent incident with false equivalencies and total buffoonery.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Anti-Fa is simply an abbreviation for anti-fascist.Anti-Fa cannot be said to be an organization any more than an ideology such as Communism or a tactic such as picketing can be said to be a specific group.
Anti-Fa are autonomous and not interconnected.
Some monitor racist groups and track Neo Nazi activities. Others pressure venues to cancel white power events. Some unmask and expose the activities of small groups of local racists. And still others resort to physical violence.
Anti-Fa is just a label adopted by different ad hoc groups. It is not a thing with a fixed identity you can outlaw or put on a watch list.