The progressive fascists known as Antifa

they'll never successfully ban anti-fascism, all they can do is ban the organization known as "antifa".
so let them throw in an antifa-ban as a whiney backslide in a federal ban on nazi organizations.

notice even in the NJ banning it's never mentioned that anti-fascism=terrorism but rather simply refers to 'antifa' and labels them 'anarchists'
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa

yet implies that nazis=terrorists like a mother****er.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/the-face-of-white-supremacy-in-2017

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There is when it is an attempt to deflect, minimize, and justify a one-sided violent incident with false equivalencies and total buffoonery.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
they'll never successfully ban anti-fascism, all they can do is ban the organization known as "antifa".
so let them throw in an antifa-ban as a whiney backslide in a federal ban on nazi organizations.

notice even in the NJ banning it's never mentioned that anti-fascism=terrorism but rather simply refers to 'antifa' and labels them 'anarchists'
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa

yet implies that nazis=terrorists like a mother****er.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/the-face-of-white-supremacy-in-2017

Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't their chapters keep in touch with other, coordinate for events, and chip in to bus their members to events? Don't they have a basic uniform that they wear and indentify themselves as a group? I mean it's not like they identify themselves by categories like "Antifa doxers, Antifa rioters, etc, they simply indentify as "Antifa". Sounds like an organizaton to me. The fact that some have different jobs within the group doesn't change the fact that they're a group...

What part of "autonomous and not interconnected" do you not understand?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What part of "autonomous and not interconnected" do you not understand?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
notice even in the NJ banning it's never mentioned that anti-fascism=terrorism but rather simply refers to 'antifa' and labels them 'anarchists'
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa

Right. Because Anti-Fa is mostly comprised of anarchists. Hence, why they are not a single organization, but a collection of ad hoc groups adopting the same label.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So exactly when is the "right time" to call them out for the violence they started at the rally?

I will tell you when is not the right time: when one person is dead and 19 are injured from a one-sided violent attack on innocent people. That is when.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Right. Because Anti-Fa is mostly comprised of anarchists. Hence, why they are not a single organization, but a collection of ad hoc groups adopting the same label.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I will tell you when is not the right time: when one person is dead and 19 are injured from a one-sided violent attack on innocent people. That is when.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm curious as to why you're so obsessed with Nazis that you think the whole world revolves around them? Antifa was a problem before this Nazi rally after all, they were put on NJs list before the Nazi rally, people were concerned about them before the Nazi rally, and they've been promoted and taken part in violence against people who aren't Nazis. Why do you think the Nazis have anything to do with people wanting them branded as terrorists?

I'm wondering that myself.

Seems like this is personal for him, in a way it isn't for your average dirtbag hating person.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Right. Because Anti-Fa is mostly comprised of anarchists. Hence, why they are not a single organization, but a collection of ad hoc groups adopting the same label.

any incarnation of white supremacy however is banned, which solves the issue. so thats why i say "let the babies have their way" and ban antifa in the same bill that bans nazi organizations, to prevent more hate-rally shitshows like in charlotteville.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't feel that the anti-ideology of anti-fascism was ever under attack in NJ. as long as i'm free to form an anti-fascist group...say one called "fascists eat donkey dicks and so do their whore mothers" for example, without being put on a watch list with the terrorists and anarchists, its all good, imho.

any incarnation of white supremacy however is banned, which solves the issue. so thats why i say "let the babies have their way" and ban antifa in the same bill that bans nazi organizations, to prevent more hate-rally shitshows like in charlotteville.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So there's NO communication, cooperation, or common theme shared between them? Isis operates out of individual cells, they're all still part of the same organization.

By all means, who are the leaders of Anti-Fa? What are their emergency response and organizational continuity plans? Where are they headquartered? When was the organization founded? Why was it founded, and what is its stated goal?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
By all means, who are the leaders of Anti-Fa? What are their emergency response and organizational continuity plans? Where are they headquartered? When was the organization founded? Why was it founded, and what is its stated goal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_vX0tknJM

Go on facebook and you'll find established chapters...

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/antifa/keywords_pages?see_more_ref=eyJzaWQiOiIwLjIyNzM1MjE3OTg3MjAwNjg0IiwicmVmIjoic2VlX21vcmUifQ%3D%3D

Originally posted by darthgoober
Which makes them part of the same group. It's not like every Nazi group works with every other one, they simply adopt the same ideas and lump themselves in with all the others.

The difference is that Nazi is a specific label, and Anti-fascist is a broad one.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well when is? At what point will you condem Antifa for their use of terrorist tactics that day? A week, a month, a year, 10 years... They've been using violence to inspire fear and destruction for a while now, have you EVER condemned them? Could it be that you actually SUPPORT violence towards anyone on right?

The moment people on the right summon the courage to denounce White Nationalists without equivocation, then maybe I will muster up the strength to give a damn.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The difference is that Nazi is a specific label, and Anti-fascist is a broad one.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=1DzOsJe0&id=8C9115A276C76CE72FA3C80E44314709A97E29A1&thid=OIP.1DzOsJe0h-2R8JuUsyHj6QD6D6&q=antifa+flag&simid=608040609145161242&selectedIndex=6&ajaxhist=0

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The moment people on the right summon the courage to denounce White Nationalists without equivocation, then maybe I will muster up the strength to give a damn.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't feel that the anti-ideology of anti-fascism was ever under attack in NJ. as long as i'm free to form an anti-fascist group...say one called "fascists eat donkey dicks and so do their whore mothers" for example, without being put on a watch list with the terrorists and anarchists, its all good, imho.

any incarnation of white supremacy however is banned, which solves the issue. so thats why i say "let the babies have their way" and ban antifa in the same bill that bans nazi organizations, to prevent more hate-rally shitshows like in charlotteville.

I could not care less about Anti-Fa. Conservatives only raise the subject as a "both sides have violent groups" deflection, or a "defend this, so I do not have to defend that" distraction. Anything to change the subject, so they do not have to defend the indefensible, or to muddy the conversational waters, to argue to a draw. The problem is that Anti-Fa is neither an albatross or a sacred cow for progressives, so it does not work.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I could not care less about Anti-Fa. Conservatives only raise the subject as a "both sides have violent groups" deflection, or a "defend this, so I do not have to defend that" distraction. Anything to change the subject, so they do not have to defend the indefensible, or to muddy the conversational waters, to argue to a draw. The problem is that Anti-Fa is neither an albatross or a sacred cow for progressives, so it does not work.