Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
zop zop hates the Marvel family and loves to low ball them, it's fine we all have likes and dislikes.
Originally posted by zopzop
I don't hate the Marvel family. I hate how people exaggerate their power level. The most powerful of them, CM and BA, are at the low end of Mid Herald at their BEST (no outside amping). Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr are at the low end of High Meta at their BEST.
Rating them THAT lowly does imply at least a little negative bias, to be fair.
Originally posted by zopzop
I don't hate the Marvel family. I hate how people exaggerate their power level. The most powerful of them, CM and BA, are at the low end of Mid Herald at their BEST (no outside amping). Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr are at the low end of High Meta at their BEST.
Adam has already beaten a higher Lantern than Hal. So, comics/feats disagree with you.
On average, this is how the fight would go down.
Hal Jordan after a good fight.
Originally posted by Zack MThis is what I thought before Hal Jordan got his recent upgrades.
On average, this is how the fight would go down.
Originally posted by vansonbee
Hal Jordan after a good fight. This is what I thought before Hal Jordan got his recent upgrades.
Well, no shit Hal wins with upgrades. He's basically a universal/multiversal level, seeing as he schooled Parallax (Zero Hour). But with no upgrades, I feel Adam has the better battle feats. He DID school the JSA and brought them hell with NO upgrades.
While comparing them both on-paper, I would definitely see that BA has a definite edge over Hal.
But then, I realize that I forgot to consider Hal's greatest asset:
His "Winningness". Not many characters have it, but when they do, it means that, rather than just giving the character a sudden, spontaneous power upgrade that does not really make sense, the writer will actually b compelled to create working, imaginative solutions to battles and problems that should b above the character's ability to overcome.
7 or 8 out of 10 battles that have Hal outgunned, will become a "victory" for Hal, due to his use of the "winningness" power.
Other characters who have shown posession of "winningness", to some degree, though most, less than Hal:
- Superman
- Captain America
- Spiderman
- Batman
And others.
BA "should" take this.
Hal "would" take this.
In my opinion.
Originally posted by Zack M
On average, this is how the fight would go down.
You mean the trailer that made everyone look weak bar the Supergod? That's not a great representation.
Originally posted by zopzop
I don't hate the Marvel family. I hate how people exaggerate their power level. The most powerful of them, CM and BA, are at the low end of Mid Herald at their BEST (no outside amping). Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr are at the low end of High Meta at their BEST.
Where would you rate guys like say Gladiator and current Hyperion?
This is post crisis BA specifically being said to not hold back. That means one thing: speedblitz. Even with the two mile starting distance, he still has all day to walk over there and repeatedly punch Hal Jordan in the face.
And the Marvels and other champions can survive crazy things, BA had a tesseract in his head. Cap was turned inside out and survived.