Ironfist vs. Mjolnir

Started by h1a812 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's hilarious how you're still using what you claim it "looks like" in order to downplay The feat's impressiveness. What happened to your standard of we should ignore visuals and just go on writer's intention?

Just giving you opinion of how I perceive it. I'm not arguing against the case that it's meant to be real earthlike rock. It doesn't look very heavy, that's for sure.

Originally posted by h1a8
I considered the possible intention that it was made of Earthlike rock and where the gravity of the world is similar to our own. I never claimed it wasn't intended to be rock. I have no problem with it being made of solid rock. They just did a shitty job in making it look like rock.

It does not appear to be made of solid rock. This isn't debatable. I have said this several times. Look how it was significantly dripping with the soft material as Kurse lifted it off the mound. But it could be meant to be rock, just bad special effects. It's like it's made something light and not very hard.

By best guess is still 5-10 tons if the material is not meant to be normal rock. I stand by that. You are an idiot to actually think the boulder APPEARS to weigh more than 10 tons.

Lol. Hand waving fact-based quantifiable calculations and instead placing a higher importance on your own biased and subjective opinion basing it entirely on how something "appears". Not even providing sources on where you came up with said opinion. And using definites like "not debatable" when it is all your own highly biased opinion.

This is why you have zero credibility.

Enough talk, BZ me on the weight. Have the balls to back up your BS for once. Or maybe we should have a mod rule on it? As this debate will stall with your frequent insistence of stating your opinions as facts.

Originally posted by h1a8
Just giving you opinion of how I perceive it. I'm not arguing against the case that it's meant to be real earthlike rock. It doesn't look very heavy, that's for sure.

The point is, you're basing your perception on visuals instead of the writer's intention whereas in multiple other threads you complain when people do that.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The point is, you're basing your perception on visuals instead of the writer's intention whereas in multiple other threads you complain when people do that.
False. I didn't know what the writer's intentions were. If I did then I wouldn't have even posted anything about the Boulder's appearance.

In the Bane thread is a different instance. The pillar was shown to be solid limestone in the scene before and switched out to prop material in the striking scene. This is the "rag doll" effect. There was no "rag doll" effect in the Kurse scene.

Originally posted by h1a8
False. I didn't know what the writer's intentions were. If I did then I wouldn't have even posted anything about the Boulder's appearance.

In the Bane thread is a different instance. The pillar was shown to be solid limestone in the scene before and switched out to prop material in the striking scene. This is the "rag doll" effect. There was no "rag doll" effect in the Kurse scene.

The column is hardly the only time you've mentioned writer's intentions trumping visuals. Yet here you are using visuals.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

Lol, so you think Kurse punched a big pile of ash/feather/foam and threw it at Thor? lol on you

Your "best guesses" suck. So no one should really listen to you when you say anything. Not that they do. No one really listens to you (other than those that want their biases confirmed even by bad logic). It's just funny how badly you suck at guessing anything and yet continue to to do so and seem to expect ppl to give you one iota of belief.

I don't know why this is so funny but i can't stop laughing.

I just keep picturing Kurse throwing a giant pillow at Thor like a boss.

reading the last page or 2 or h1, just brought me to laughs

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
reading the last page or 2 or h1, just brought me to laughs

I don't see why? Everything I said makes perfect sense.
1. It the boulder was meant to be rock then it's poor special effects.
2. We can't be 100% sure what the writer intended, especially being on an alien world.
3. I have no problem assuming it was solid rock.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The column is hardly the only time you've mentioned writer's intentions trumping visuals. Yet here you are using visuals.

I guess that means you have poor reading comprehension then.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope. The pillar was solid stone in the scene before. Then it changed to prop material. The "rag doll" effect.

Except there's no proof that it was solid stone the scene before.

Originally posted by h1a8

I guess that means you have poor reading comprehension then.

A challenge then, if I can provide examples of you arguing that writer's intentions trumps visuals you agree not to post in this forum for six months if I can't provide the quotes I won't post for 6 months.

Do you accept?

BZ's mean he has to prove his point in front of a Mod, which means he has to actually be correct and not just tell us he's correct while ignoring facts and feats. So he'll never do one. Because he literally only believes his opinion is correct and won't accept anything else.

Originally posted by Silent Master
A challenge then, if I can provide examples of you arguing that writer's intentions trumps visuals you agree not to post in this forum for six months if I can't provide the quotes I won't post for 6 months.

Do you accept?

This confirms that your reading comprehension sucks.

Originally posted by h1a8
This confirms that your reading comprehension sucks.

Then accept the challenge.

Lol.

Seeing as h1 will not back up his own statements via the challenge, it is now firmly established that the boulder weighs in over 100 tons in the low-end lowball up to 500 tons on the high end. Any other statement from h1 disputing that fact would require him to accept the BZ challenge to back up his own assertions, else his statements can be freely ignored in any argument.

Anyone feel free to cut/paste the above anytime he starts his old 5-10 tons BS (aka trolling).

Notice how h1 runs from both of our challenges?

It's hard to believe this went on for 8 pages.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
It's hard to believe this went on for 8 pages.

blame h1

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
It's hard to believe this went on for 8 pages.

Yes this is a pretty stupid thread. Not even worth wasting my brain cells arguing in it.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Lol.

Seeing as h1 will not back up his own statements via the challenge, it is now firmly established that the boulder weighs in over 100 tons in the low-end lowball up to 500 tons on the high end. Any other statement from h1 disputing that fact would require him to accept the BZ challenge to back up his own assertions, else his statements can be freely ignored in any argument.

Anyone feel free to cut/paste the above anytime he starts his old 5-10 tons BS (aka trolling).

The Boulder APPEARS to weigh less than 10 tons. This is a fact. It could be structured that way on purpose or due to bad special effects.

With that said, I don't have a problem with it weighing from 100-300 tons.

So why derail the thread?

Let's debate accordingly.

IF can definitely stop Mjolnir in flight from being thrown with a punch.