Ironfist vs. Mjolnir

Nice to know that you now believe visuals trump "writer's intent".

Originally posted by h1a8
The Boulder APPEARS to weigh less than 10 tons. This is a fact. It could be structured that way on purpose or due to bad special effects.

With that said, I don't have a problem with it weighing from 100-300 tons.

So why derail the thread?

Let's debate accordingly.

IF can definitely stop Mjolnir in flight from being thrown with a punch.

"Appears" (aka. personal subjective interpretations) = fact

Everyone LOL at h1's "logic" ladies and gentlemen.

I've been saying for a while that h1 can't tell the difference between his opinion and fact.

If one says, "it appears to me to be a duck" Either they are lying (it doesn't appear to them to be a duck) or they are telling the truth (it does appear to them to be a duck).

Since we can assign a truth value to the statement, it can never be an opinion.

The Boulder appears to me to weigh less than 10 tons. Either this statement is true or false. If true, then it is a fact.

H1 your posts are pure trash.

Originally posted by h1a8
If one says, "it appears to me to be a duck" Either they are lying (it doesn't appear to them to be a duck) or they are telling the truth (it does appear to them to be a duck).

Since we can assign a truth value to the statement, it can never be an opinion.

The Boulder appears to me to weigh less than 10 tons. Either this statement is true or false. If true, then it is a fact.

All you're doing is proving that your opinions are retarded and thus people shouldn't trust anything you say.

Originally posted by h1a8
If one says, "it appears to me to be a duck" Either they are lying (it doesn't appear to them to be a duck) or they are telling the truth (it does appear to them to be a duck).

Since we can assign a truth value to the statement, it can never be an opinion.

The Boulder appears to me to weigh less than 10 tons. Either this statement is true or false. If true, then it is a fact.

Except when every factual indicator points to it being a swan yet some retarded individual insists on it geing a duck even when said individual admits that the indicators seem to prove that it is indeed a swan yet still insists that it is a duck (ignoring facts to insist on his opinion).

Which only proves that said individual is retarded and no one should listen to anything he says.

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Originally posted by Nibedicus
Except when every factual indicator points to it being a swan yet some retarded individual insists on it geing a duck even when said individual admits that the indicators seem to prove that it is indeed a swan yet still insists that it is a duck (ignoring facts to insist on his opinion).

Which only proves that said individual is retarded and no one should listen to anything he says.

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I disagree. Anyone who thinks the Boulder LOOKS to weigh more than 60 tons is an idiot. That includes you.

Look at 0:52 - 0:54 (only that frame) and you will see where I get the less that 10 tons from.
YouTube video

But I'll accept the guess that it was meant to weigh more than 100 tons . So let's agree on 150 tons, which is generous.

In all of Mjolnir returns, it does not always have the power as Thor's Mjolnir throw. In the Kurse seen, Mjolnir is returning at a slow pace in comparison to an average Mjolnir throw. Thus Kurse didn't need as much force to hit it away as he would if it was thrown.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. Anyone who thinks the Boulder LOOKS to weigh more than 60 tons is an idiot. That includes you.

Look at 0:52 - 0:54 (only that frame) and you will see where I get the less that 10 tons from.
YouTube video

But I'll accept the guess that it was meant to weigh more than 100 tons . So let's agree on 150 tons, which is generous.

h1a8: hey guys, I only meant the boulder looks like it weighs less than 10 tons based on the shots where we only see parts of the thing. Don't look at the shot where we can clearly see the WHOLE thing, just look at the shots where most of the boulder isn't seen in the shots. I mean, I know that 2 seconds (@ 0:56) later you can see the WHOLE boulder, but don't look at that pls. Just the part I want you to look at. See? 10 tonsszzz! And anyone who disagrees (or looks at the shots where the entire boulder is visible) is an idiot.

I guess if you only look at a swan's butt, ignoring the rest, you'd think it's a duck, too.

This has gotta be a comedy act at this point. OMG. I can't stop laughing...

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Someone needs to save this discussion for all future h1 interactions.

This is a 40 ton boulder. Look how small it is in comparison to the one Kurse threw.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. Anyone who thinks the Boulder LOOKS to weigh more than 60 tons is an idiot. That includes you.

Look at 0:52 - 0:54 (only that frame) and you will see where I get the less that 10 tons from.
YouTube video

But I'll accept the guess that it was meant to weigh more than 100 tons . So let's agree on 150 tons, which is generous.

I looked at the whole clip and IMO only a moron or a massive troll would think it looks like 10 tons.

So, which one are you?

Boulder is at least 100 tons.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
"Appears" (aka. personal subjective interpretations) = fact

Everyone LOL at h1's "logic" ladies and gentlemen.

He's always been a massive joke. I believe he's a bot that somehow became sentient.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I looked at the whole clip and IMO only a moron or a massive troll would think it looks like 10 tons.

So, which one are you?

It just shows how stupid you are. The initial Boulder wasn't large as the latter one. It was much smaller. Also, The material seemed much lighter than actual solid rock.

Originally posted by KingD19

This is a 40 ton boulder. Look how small it is in comparison to the one Kurse threw.

That boulder looks like a real Boulder made of solid rock, also the one Kurse threw isn't much bigger.

I already accepted it weighs 150-200 tons, if we assume it was made of solid (not porous) rock (and not a much lighter material).

Originally posted by Nibedicus
h1a8: hey guys, I only meant the boulder looks like it weighs less than 10 tons based on the shots where we only see parts of the thing. Don't look at the shot where we can clearly see the WHOLE thing, just look at the shots where most of the boulder isn't seen in the shots. I mean, I know that 2 seconds (@ 0:56) later you can see the WHOLE boulder, but don't look at that pls. Just the part I want you to look at. See? 10 tonsszzz! And anyone who disagrees (or looks at the shots where the entire boulder is visible) is an idiot.

I guess if you only look at a swan's butt, ignoring the rest, you'd think it's a duck, too.

This has gotta be a comedy act at this point. OMG. I can't stop laughing...

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Someone needs to save this discussion for all future h1 interactions.

My God, you are an idiot for real. The initial Boulder WAS SMALLER. It got swapped out with a larger one in the next scene. Geez, you can't be that dumb.

The boulder in the clip was much bigger than the one King posted, you're either lying or need glasses.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The boulder in the clip was much bigger than the one King posted, you're either lying or need glasses.

Originally posted by h1a8

Look at 0:52 - 0:54 (only that frame) and you will see that the Boulder is smaller.
YouTube video

Yes, thank you for posting a clip that proves the boulder was much larger than the one King posted.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, thank you for posting a clip that proves the boulder was much larger than the one King posted.

In the second scene it is bigger, not in the first scene. Also in the first scene it still appears less than 10tons even if it was the same size or bigger. Size in it self is irrelevant. Density is also important.