World Breaker Hulk's biggest feat vs Orion's

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil17 pages

Originally posted by Philosophía
Put your hate for abhi aside for a moment and let's agree that if you change your mind [or I do], you [or I] will acknowledge it. I know the rest have an agenda, but I know I can talk to you. There's never been [or will be] bad blood between us, so we can go at this rationally. Maybe I, or you, missed something.

Agree?

Now, let's look at the issue. I will put this in chonological order.

1). Take a moment and, please, look at it carefully:

a). the Solar System still existing [b]3 seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive as Orion/Golem are in a blast off in space [we see the blast off and the solar system specifically in panel 1]
b). we see the shockwave from their blast off in space extending and approaching the planet [panel 4/last panel]

At this point we have a few facts:
- the solar system is not destroyed
- Orion/Golem are involved in a blast off in space
- there's seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive

I'm sure you agree here.

Let's move on to the next scan:

a). We see Graf [panel 1] feeling the destruction that is taking place on the last panel of the previous page
b). There are 2 seconds left panel 2
c). Orion and the Golem are standing in front of each other continuing their blast off [panel 3]
d). Through Graf's eyes you can see Golem and Orion still blasting each other as he mutters "I'm too late" as the shockwaves expand and take everything[panel 4]
e). 0 seconds left Hal and Kyle arrive.

Facts:
- Throughout this small time frame of seconds, Orion and the Golem are involved in a face to face blast off in space [we see the fight.
- In fact, for every second of this entire scene we see them face to face in a blast off, first through a wide picture of the solar system [not destroyed], then through a close up of them, then through Graf's eyes. This is happening in sequential seconds, in all of them us seeing the fight and destruction.
- we see the shockwaves approach the planets [we see the destruction]
- we have a timeframe [we get the seconds counter

And finally, Hal and Kyle arrive and we see what Graf saw was happening in those few seconds, which is that the solar system was destroyed:

We then see Kyle/Hal after the solar system is destroyed looking in the distance as the fight still takes place..

Only to hear a ping as Orion teleports from out of there engulfed in the energies of their fight:

At this point he is running from the Omega Beams -- i.e. the one attack from the Golem that can truly kill him. [a weapon that he needs to charge]

It is made clear that the Omega Beams are the ones Orion fears:

That is why you see him running -- he fought him off in a blast off [unfortunately for the solar system] until the Omega Beams were charged and then he got one-shotted.

This is quite clear just in case it wasn't, the writer hammers it over the head with Kyle telling Orion not have the blast off with Golem, as it destroyed the solar system last time:

And to top it all of, we have the writer confirming what we already know: Orion and The Golem faced each-other, face to face, in a blast-off in space, in a specified timeframe, with specific solar-system destruction, specifically due to the shockwaves, until Hal/Kyle arrived and the charged Omega Beams hit Orion:

So:
We see the fight [it's them literally standing face to face and trading blasts] through multiple viewpoints [far off, close-up, through Graf]
We see the timeframe [seconds]
We see the shockwaves approaching the planet, we see its destruction felt
We see the solar system go from not destroyed to destroyed, specifically by the shockwaves that are generated specifically by them slugfesting energy blasts
We see Hal/Kyle arriving and seeing the specific spot where Orion/Golem trade off hits, until Orion runs from the OBs.

Now, xJLx, can you honestly tell me that this is not a direct standstill power face off whose after shocks destroyed a solar system in seconds? That Orion in that face off where he stood face to face with the Golem, shown multiple times, until the solar system fell? That Orion stood there and wasn't treated as a bug until the Omega Beams came into place? This won't be conceding to abhi or any shit like that -- you're talking to me.

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😂 What a shit post, none of it made sense

They show up in the system and survey the damage. Orion and the golem are gone and there’s no suggestion they exited superluminal space that’s it’s exactly at the spot the battle took place🤦🏽‍♂️.
Orion is running from the golem when he boom tubes in front of Hal and Kyle exclaiming “A4 we made it! Whew” in relief. He then has a whole dialogue with the GL’a before the Golem lights him up with the OB.

Try reading it this time. It should make more sense then.

Lmao. Read it slower, Albert.

Take your time. Pause. Breathe deeply. Take 20 seconds' of break, look out the window. Look back at the screen, and try to read it again.

You'll get there little buddy.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Put your hate for abhi aside for a moment and let's agree that if you change your mind [or I do], you [or I] will acknowledge it. I know the rest have an agenda, but I know I can talk to you. There's never been [or will be] bad blood between us, so we can go at this rationally. Maybe I, or you, missed something.

Agree?

Now, let's look at the issue. I will put this in chonological order.

1). Take a moment and, please, look at it carefully:

a). the Solar System still existing [b]3 seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive as Orion/Golem are in a blast off in space [we see the blast off and the solar system specifically in panel 1]
b). we see the shockwave from their blast off in space extending and approaching the planet [panel 4/last panel]

At this point we have a few facts:
- the solar system is not destroyed
- Orion/Golem are involved in a blast off in space
- there's seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive

I'm sure you agree here.

Let's move on to the next scan:

a). We see Graf [panel 1] feeling the destruction that is taking place on the last panel of the previous page
b). There are 2 seconds left panel 2
c). Orion and the Golem are standing in front of each other continuing their blast off [panel 3]
d). Through Graf's eyes you can see Golem and Orion still blasting each other as he mutters "I'm too late" as the shockwaves expand and take everything[panel 4]
e). 0 seconds left Hal and Kyle arrive.

Facts:
- Throughout this small time frame of seconds, Orion and the Golem are involved in a face to face blast off in space [we see the fight.
- In fact, for every second of this entire scene we see them face to face in a blast off, first through a wide picture of the solar system [not destroyed], then through a close up of them, then through Graf's eyes. This is happening in sequential seconds, in all of them us seeing the fight and destruction.
- we see the shockwaves approach the planets [we see the destruction]
- we have a timeframe [we get the seconds counter

And finally, Hal and Kyle arrive and we see what Graf saw was happening in those few seconds, which is that the solar system was destroyed:

We then see Kyle/Hal after the solar system is destroyed looking in the distance as the fight still takes place..

Only to hear a ping as Orion teleports from out of there engulfed in the energies of their fight:

At this point he is running from the Omega Beams -- i.e. the one attack from the Golem that can truly kill him. [a weapon that he needs to charge]

It is made clear that the Omega Beams are the ones Orion fears:

That is why you see him running -- he fought him off in a blast off [unfortunately for the solar system] until the Omega Beams were charged and then he got one-shotted.

This is quite clear just in case it wasn't, the writer hammers it over the head with Kyle telling Orion not have the blast off with Golem, as it destroyed the solar system last time:

And to top it all of, we have the writer confirming what we already know: Orion and The Golem faced each-other, face to face, in a blast-off in space, in a specified timeframe, with specific solar-system destruction, specifically due to the shockwaves, until Hal/Kyle arrived and the charged Omega Beams hit Orion:

So:
We see the fight [it's them literally standing face to face and trading blasts] through multiple viewpoints [far off, close-up, through Graf]
We see the timeframe [seconds]
We see the shockwaves approaching the planet, we see its destruction felt
We see the solar system go from not destroyed to destroyed, specifically by the shockwaves that are generated specifically by them slugfesting energy blasts
We see Hal/Kyle arriving and seeing the specific spot where Orion/Golem trade off hits, until Orion runs from the OBs.

Now, xJLx, can you honestly tell me that this is not a direct standstill power face off whose after shocks destroyed a solar system in seconds? That Orion in that face off where he stood face to face with the Golem, shown multiple times, until the solar system fell? That Orion stood there and wasn't treated as a bug until the Omega Beams came into place? This won't be conceding to abhi or any shit like that -- you're talking to me.

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😂 Also Except Graf sees the golems in a premonition.
Graf sees them in the SAME viewpoint as the aliens of you look at his eyes through his pre cog(?). You don’t see them fighting from planet side, you see the energy signature. Hal and Kyle arrived to the AFTERMATH not the shockwaves.

https://imgur.com/a/o7ytYCA

https://imgur.com/a/AlPbRrc

https://imgur.com/a/Ki2acZs

^ prove my points and the inconsistency in your post. you added a lot of embellishments and assumptions to your summary

Stop selling a shit burger, it's embarrassing. Daddy is here to lecture you on these stuff son, whenever you wanna man up and stand up towards your master i'm all ears my 💪

I'll dismantle more of your other "points" aswell in a couple, don't worry 😂

😐

You lot are still ****ing at it? JFC.

Originally posted by -Pr-
😐

You lot are still ****ing at it? JFC.

Tbf everyone else has gone silent but Albert. And I don't know why people still engage him.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Tbf everyone else has gone silent but Albert. And I don't know why people still engage him.

That is my honest opinion 😛
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
All in all, I think we can agree that Orion's feat is better than Hulk's. And Alberto should get banned for trolling 👆

Originally posted by Philosophía
Put your hate for abhi aside for a moment and let's agree that if you change your mind [or I do], you [or I] will acknowledge it. I know the rest have an agenda, but I know I can talk to you. There's never been [or will be] bad blood between us, so we can go at this rationally. Maybe I, or you, missed something.

Agree?

Now, let's look at the issue. I will put this in chonological order.

1). Take a moment and, please, look at it carefully:

a). the Solar System still existing [b]3 seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive as Orion/Golem are in a blast off in space [we see the blast off and the solar system specifically in panel 1]
b). we see the shockwave from their blast off in space extending and approaching the planet [panel 4/last panel]

At this point we have a few facts:
- the solar system is not destroyed
- Orion/Golem are involved in a blast off in space
- there's seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive

I'm sure you agree here.

Let's move on to the next scan:

a). We see Graf [panel 1] feeling the destruction that is taking place on the last panel of the previous page
b). There are 2 seconds left panel 2
c). Orion and the Golem are standing in front of each other continuing their blast off [panel 3]
d). Through Graf's eyes you can see Golem and Orion still blasting each other as he mutters "I'm too late" as the shockwaves expand and take everything[panel 4]
e). 0 seconds left Hal and Kyle arrive.

Facts:
- Throughout this small time frame of seconds, Orion and the Golem are involved in a face to face blast off in space [we see the fight.
- In fact, for every second of this entire scene we see them face to face in a blast off, first through a wide picture of the solar system [not destroyed], then through a close up of them, then through Graf's eyes. This is happening in sequential seconds, in all of them us seeing the fight and destruction.
- we see the shockwaves approach the planets [we see the destruction]
- we have a timeframe [we get the seconds counter

And finally, Hal and Kyle arrive and we see what Graf saw was happening in those few seconds, which is that the solar system was destroyed:

We then see Kyle/Hal after the solar system is destroyed looking in the distance as the fight still takes place..

Only to hear a ping as Orion teleports from out of there engulfed in the energies of their fight:

At this point he is running from the Omega Beams -- i.e. the one attack from the Golem that can truly kill him. [a weapon that he needs to charge]

It is made clear that the Omega Beams are the ones Orion fears:

That is why you see him running -- he fought him off in a blast off [unfortunately for the solar system] until the Omega Beams were charged and then he got one-shotted.

This is quite clear just in case it wasn't, the writer hammers it over the head with Kyle telling Orion not have the blast off with Golem, as it destroyed the solar system last time:

And to top it all of, we have the writer confirming what we already know: Orion and The Golem faced each-other, face to face, in a blast-off in space, in a specified timeframe, with specific solar-system destruction, specifically due to the shockwaves, until Hal/Kyle arrived and the charged Omega Beams hit Orion:

So:
We see the fight [it's them literally standing face to face and trading blasts] through multiple viewpoints [far off, close-up, through Graf]
We see the timeframe [seconds]
We see the shockwaves approaching the planet, we see its destruction felt
We see the solar system go from not destroyed to destroyed, specifically by the shockwaves that are generated specifically by them slugfesting energy blasts
We see Hal/Kyle arriving and seeing the specific spot where Orion/Golem trade off hits, until Orion runs from the OBs.

Now, xJLx, can you honestly tell me that this is not a direct standstill power face off whose after shocks destroyed a solar system in seconds? That Orion in that face off where he stood face to face with the Golem, shown multiple times, until the solar system fell? That Orion stood there and wasn't treated as a bug until the Omega Beams came into place? This won't be conceding to abhi or any shit like that -- you're talking to me.

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what a excellent post, all of it made sense. 👆

Originally posted by Philosophía
Put your hate for abhi aside for a moment and let's agree that if you change your mind [or I do], you [or I] will acknowledge it. I know the rest have an agenda, but I know I can talk to you. There's never been [or will be] bad blood between us, so we can go at this rationally. Maybe I, or you, missed something.

Agree?

Now, let's look at the issue. I will put this in chonological order.

1). Take a moment and, please, look at it carefully:

a). the Solar System still existing [b]3 seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive as Orion/Golem are in a blast off in space [we see the blast off and the solar system specifically in panel 1]
b). we see the shockwave from their blast off in space extending and approaching the planet [panel 4/last panel]

At this point we have a few facts:
- the solar system is not destroyed
- Orion/Golem are involved in a blast off in space
- there's seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive

I'm sure you agree here.

Let's move on to the next scan:

a). We see Graf [panel 1] feeling the destruction that is taking place on the last panel of the previous page
b). There are 2 seconds left panel 2
c). Orion and the Golem are standing in front of each other continuing their blast off [panel 3]
d). Through Graf's eyes you can see Golem and Orion still blasting each other as he mutters "I'm too late" as the shockwaves expand and take everything[panel 4]
e). 0 seconds left Hal and Kyle arrive.

Facts:
- Throughout this small time frame of seconds, Orion and the Golem are involved in a face to face blast off in space [we see the fight.
- In fact, for every second of this entire scene we see them face to face in a blast off, first through a wide picture of the solar system [not destroyed], then through a close up of them, then through Graf's eyes. This is happening in sequential seconds, in all of them us seeing the fight and destruction.
- we see the shockwaves approach the planets [we see the destruction]
- we have a timeframe [we get the seconds counter

And finally, Hal and Kyle arrive and we see what Graf saw was happening in those few seconds, which is that the solar system was destroyed:

We then see Kyle/Hal after the solar system is destroyed looking in the distance as the fight still takes place..

Only to hear a ping as Orion teleports from out of there engulfed in the energies of their fight:

At this point he is running from the Omega Beams -- i.e. the one attack from the Golem that can truly kill him. [a weapon that he needs to charge]

It is made clear that the Omega Beams are the ones Orion fears:

That is why you see him running -- he fought him off in a blast off [unfortunately for the solar system] until the Omega Beams were charged and then he got one-shotted.

This is quite clear just in case it wasn't, the writer hammers it over the head with Kyle telling Orion not have the blast off with Golem, as it destroyed the solar system last time:

And to top it all of, we have the writer confirming what we already know: Orion and The Golem faced each-other, face to face, in a blast-off in space, in a specified timeframe, with specific solar-system destruction, specifically due to the shockwaves, until Hal/Kyle arrived and the charged Omega Beams hit Orion:

So:
We see the fight [it's them literally standing face to face and trading blasts] through multiple viewpoints [far off, close-up, through Graf]
We see the timeframe [seconds]
We see the shockwaves approaching the planet, we see its destruction felt
We see the solar system go from not destroyed to destroyed, specifically by the shockwaves that are generated specifically by them slugfesting energy blasts
We see Hal/Kyle arriving and seeing the specific spot where Orion/Golem trade off hits, until Orion runs from the OBs.

Now, xJLx, can you honestly tell me that this is not a direct standstill power face off whose after shocks destroyed a solar system in seconds? That Orion in that face off where he stood face to face with the Golem, shown multiple times, until the solar system fell? That Orion stood there and wasn't treated as a bug until the Omega Beams came into place? This won't be conceding to abhi or any shit like that -- you're talking to me.

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Boom

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Also Except Graf sees the golems in a premonition.
Graf sees them in the SAME viewpoint as the aliens of you look at his eyes through his pre cog(?). You don’t see them fighting from planet side, you see the energy signature. Hal and Kyle arrived to the AFTERMATH not the shockwaves.

https://imgur.com/a/o7ytYCA

https://imgur.com/a/AlPbRrc

https://imgur.com/a/Ki2acZs

^ prove my points and the inconsistency in your post. you added a lot of embellishments and assumptions to your summary

Stop selling a shit burger, it's embarrassing. Daddy is here to lecture you on these stuff son, whenever you wanna man up and stand up towards your master i'm all ears my 💪

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I'll dismantle more of your other "points" aswell in a couple, don't worry 😂

😂

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
what a excellent post, all of it made sense. 👆

How long does that sequence of events last? Hours, minutes, seconds?

What do you think?

I have been convinced that it was indeed a battle. The amount of time that it lasted is anyone’s guess. The Nth Metal Golem shows how easily it was able to resist restraint from a top GL which helps to shed a little light on how powerful that construct actually was in comparison to a High Herald. My guess is that Orion at best faced it for minutes, and I’m thinking that that is being generous based solely on it’s performance against Hal.

No possible way of knowing for certain.

Originally posted by Stoic
How long does that sequence of events last? Hours, minutes, seconds?

Seconds

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao. Read it slower, Albert.

Take your time. Pause. Breathe deeply. Take 20 seconds' of break, look out the window. Look back at the screen, and try to read it again.

You'll get there little buddy.

😂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Put your hate for abhi aside for a moment and let's agree that if you change your mind [or I do], you [or I] will acknowledge it. I know the rest have an agenda, but I know I can talk to you. There's never been [or will be] bad blood between us, so we can go at this rationally. Maybe I, or you, missed something.

Agree?

Now, let's look at the issue. I will put this in chonological order.

1). Take a moment and, please, look at it carefully:

a). the Solar System still existing [b]3 seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive as Orion/Golem are in a blast off in space [we see the blast off and the solar system specifically in panel 1]
b). we see the shockwave from their blast off in space extending and approaching the planet [panel 4/last panel]

At this point we have a few facts:
- the solar system is not destroyed
- Orion/Golem are involved in a blast off in space
- there's seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive

I'm sure you agree here.

Let's move on to the next scan:

a). We see Graf [panel 1] feeling the destruction that is taking place on the last panel of the previous page
b). There are 2 seconds left panel 2
c). Orion and the Golem are standing in front of each other continuing their blast off [panel 3]
d). Through Graf's eyes you can see Golem and Orion still blasting each other as he mutters "I'm too late" as the shockwaves expand and take everything[panel 4]
e). 0 seconds left Hal and Kyle arrive.

Facts:
- Throughout this small time frame of seconds, Orion and the Golem are involved in a face to face blast off in space [we see the fight.
- In fact, for every second of this entire scene we see them face to face in a blast off, first through a wide picture of the solar system [not destroyed], then through a close up of them, then through Graf's eyes. This is happening in sequential seconds, in all of them us seeing the fight and destruction.
- we see the shockwaves approach the planets [we see the destruction]
- we have a timeframe [we get the seconds counter

And finally, Hal and Kyle arrive and we see what Graf saw was happening in those few seconds, which is that the solar system was destroyed:

We then see Kyle/Hal after the solar system is destroyed looking in the distance as the fight still takes place..

Only to hear a ping as Orion teleports from out of there engulfed in the energies of their fight:

At this point he is running from the Omega Beams -- i.e. the one attack from the Golem that can truly kill him. [a weapon that he needs to charge]

It is made clear that the Omega Beams are the ones Orion fears:

That is why you see him running -- he fought him off in a blast off [unfortunately for the solar system] until the Omega Beams were charged and then he got one-shotted.

This is quite clear just in case it wasn't, the writer hammers it over the head with Kyle telling Orion not have the blast off with Golem, as it destroyed the solar system last time:

And to top it all of, we have the writer confirming what we already know: Orion and The Golem faced each-other, face to face, in a blast-off in space, in a specified timeframe, with specific solar-system destruction, specifically due to the shockwaves, until Hal/Kyle arrived and the charged Omega Beams hit Orion:

So:
We see the fight [it's them literally standing face to face and trading blasts] through multiple viewpoints [far off, close-up, through Graf]
We see the timeframe [seconds]
We see the shockwaves approaching the planet, we see its destruction felt
We see the solar system go from not destroyed to destroyed, specifically by the shockwaves that are generated specifically by them slugfesting energy blasts
We see Hal/Kyle arriving and seeing the specific spot where Orion/Golem trade off hits, until Orion runs from the OBs.

Now, xJLx, can you honestly tell me that this is not a direct standstill power face off whose after shocks destroyed a solar system in seconds? That Orion in that face off where he stood face to face with the Golem, shown multiple times, until the solar system fell? That Orion stood there and wasn't treated as a bug until the Omega Beams came into place? This won't be conceding to abhi or any shit like that -- you're talking to me.

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This.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Put your hate for abhi aside for a moment and let's agree that if you change your mind [or I do], you [or I] will acknowledge it. I know the rest have an agenda, but I know I can talk to you. There's never been [or will be] bad blood between us, so we can go at this rationally. Maybe I, or you, missed something.

Agree?

Now, let's look at the issue. I will put this in chonological order.

1). Take a moment and, please, look at it carefully:

a). the Solar System still existing [b]3 seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive as Orion/Golem are in a blast off in space [we see the blast off and the solar system specifically in panel 1]
b). we see the shockwave from their blast off in space extending and approaching the planet [panel 4/last panel]

At this point we have a few facts:
- the solar system is not destroyed
- Orion/Golem are involved in a blast off in space
- there's seconds before Hal/Kyle arrive

I'm sure you agree here.

Let's move on to the next scan:

a). We see Graf [panel 1] feeling the destruction that is taking place on the last panel of the previous page
b). There are 2 seconds left panel 2
c). Orion and the Golem are standing in front of each other continuing their blast off [panel 3]
d). Through Graf's eyes you can see Golem and Orion still blasting each other as he mutters "I'm too late" as the shockwaves expand and take everything[panel 4]
e). 0 seconds left Hal and Kyle arrive.

Facts:
- Throughout this small time frame of seconds, Orion and the Golem are involved in a face to face blast off in space [we see the fight.
- In fact, for every second of this entire scene we see them face to face in a blast off, first through a wide picture of the solar system [not destroyed], then through a close up of them, then through Graf's eyes. This is happening in sequential seconds, in all of them us seeing the fight and destruction.
- we see the shockwaves approach the planets [we see the destruction]
- we have a timeframe [we get the seconds counter

And finally, Hal and Kyle arrive and we see what Graf saw was happening in those few seconds, which is that the solar system was destroyed:

We then see Kyle/Hal after the solar system is destroyed looking in the distance as the fight still takes place..

Only to hear a ping as Orion teleports from out of there engulfed in the energies of their fight:

At this point he is running from the Omega Beams -- i.e. the one attack from the Golem that can truly kill him. [a weapon that he needs to charge]

It is made clear that the Omega Beams are the ones Orion fears:

That is why you see him running -- he fought him off in a blast off [unfortunately for the solar system] until the Omega Beams were charged and then he got one-shotted.

This is quite clear just in case it wasn't, the writer hammers it over the head with Kyle telling Orion not have the blast off with Golem, as it destroyed the solar system last time:

And to top it all of, we have the writer confirming what we already know: Orion and The Golem faced each-other, face to face, in a blast-off in space, in a specified timeframe, with specific solar-system destruction, specifically due to the shockwaves, until Hal/Kyle arrived and the charged Omega Beams hit Orion:

So:
We see the fight [it's them literally standing face to face and trading blasts] through multiple viewpoints [far off, close-up, through Graf]
We see the timeframe [seconds]
We see the shockwaves approaching the planet, we see its destruction felt
We see the solar system go from not destroyed to destroyed, specifically by the shockwaves that are generated specifically by them slugfesting energy blasts
We see Hal/Kyle arriving and seeing the specific spot where Orion/Golem trade off hits, until Orion runs from the OBs.

Now, xJLx, can you honestly tell me that this is not a direct standstill power face off whose after shocks destroyed a solar system in seconds? That Orion in that face off where he stood face to face with the Golem, shown multiple times, until the solar system fell? That Orion stood there and wasn't treated as a bug until the Omega Beams came into place? This won't be conceding to abhi or any shit like that -- you're talking to me.

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This post exudes big dick energy. Very proud. Keep it up

Originally posted by abhilegend
Seconds

And now for the moment that continues to pop up. How much did Orion contribute to the feat? Can you answer this? If not, guess what?

The feat remains unquantifiable.