Emperor Joker vs Living Tribunal

Started by abhilegend16 pages

Originally posted by TheHulkster
There are alternate Mxys. Show where there is a single Spectre.

There is only one mxy across all medium as per action comics 975.

It was shown in Spectre v4 that there is only one prime Spectre and all others are his aspects.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre is one throughout the multiverse as well.

LT is on panel peer to Spectre and gets turned into a pig.

No LT is over Spectre!

That is a known thing.

EJ loses due to getting sealed in his universe.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No LT is over Spectre!

That is a known thing.

EJ loses due to getting sealed in his universe.


Known by who?

Joker wasn't a universal being, he was a multiversal being and would destroy LT.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There is only one mxy across all medium as per action comics 975.

It was shown in Spectre v4 that there is only one prime Spectre and all others are his aspects.

So this is the one and only Mxy who is above LT? 😆

https://m.imgur.com/JDdnIzG

Meh.. That was so dumb. Equally as bad as Anataz bs. PIS poor writing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Known by who?

Joker wasn't a universal being, he was a multiversal being and would destroy LT.

Nah, we see his reactions as being inferior to Lt's power. It isn't close. Mxy level power has been exploited or rendered impotent by Annataz with no amps whatsoever. This isn't close.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So this is the one and only Mxy who is above LT? 😆

https://m.imgur.com/JDdnIzG

Gog oneshotted him and we see his power is very finite. Did love the Superman killer though. He really crushes Supermen.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Known by who?

Joker wasn't a universal being, he was a multiversal being and would destroy LT.

The Spectre isn't in par with Tribunal. The Tribunal would be in par with Lucifer and Michael.

Even if EJ was. LT can still imprisson him into a Universe.

The Beyonder was Multiversal before being sealed by the LT.

LT takes this one.

As i said before, the LT is omnipotent when casting judgement. EJ would have broken several cosmic balances. LT can therefore judge EJ.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So this is the one and only Mxy who is above LT? 😆

https://m.imgur.com/JDdnIzG


Yes. At least he has his high showings. LT has poor showings only save a few implied showings of power. Otherwise he loses to an alternate Reed Richards and his blast combined with several other cosmics is only solar system level.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The Spectre isn't in par with Tribunal. The Tribunal would be in par with Lucifer and Michael.

Even if EJ was. LT can still imprisson him into a Universe.

The Beyonder was Multiversal before being sealed by the LT.

LT takes this one.

As i said before, the LT is omnipotent when casting judgement. EJ would have broken several cosmic balances. LT can therefore judge EJ.


Your parroting same thing again and again doesn't proves anything. LT doesn't has any feats on level of Lucifer or Michael and he has already been shown as a peer to Spectre.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. At least he has his high showings. LT has poor showings only save a few implied showings of power. Otherwise he loses to an alternate Reed Richards and his blast combined with several other cosmics is only solar system level.


Your parroting same thing again and again doesn't proves anything. LT doesn't has any feats on level of Lucifer or Michael and he has already been shown as a peer to Spectre.

Are you saying Michael and Lucifer are in par with the Spectre!!!!?

Lol are you sure about that?

Spectre vol 3 10

Spectre lost against Michael here. The only one parroting stuff here is you.

Spectre had a harsh time and needed help to defeat the Anti Monitor!!

Living Tribunal would have easily stop Anti Monitor!!!!

Living Tribunal》》Spectre

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Are you saying Michael and Lucifer are in par with the Spectre!!!!?

Lol are you sure about that?

[B]Spectre vol 3 10

Spectre lost against Michael here. The only one parroting stuff here is you.

Spectre had a harsh time and needed help to defeat the Anti Monitor!!

Living Tribunal would have easily stop Anti Monitor!!!!

Living Tribunal》》Spectre [/B]


No, living tribunal is on par with Spectre. Michael and Lucifer are far above both.

How would he do that? He needed help to defeat an alternate Galactus who was dying from a star overloading him and got his ass handed to him by an alternate Reed Richards.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, living tribunal is on par with Spectre. Michael and Lucifer are far above both.

How would he do that? He needed help to defeat an alternate Galactus who was dying from a star overloading him and got his ass handed to him by an alternate Reed Richards.

No. Michael and Lucifer = LT.

Michael and Lucifer represent the cosmic balance of DC
Just like LT represents that of marvel.

Spectre is less than LT.

LT would have defeated Antimonitor.

AM would have erased LT out of existence.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No. Michael and Lucifer = LT.

Michael and Lucifer represent the cosmic balance of DC
Just like LT represents that of marvel.

Spectre is less than LT.

LT would have defeated Antimonitor.

Pretty much.

Originally posted by Zack M
AM would have erased LT out of existence.

Incorrect.

Originally posted by Mr Master
As for the 5 dimension haywire panel: context please, post Full page, Prior page and Following page. I mean when people post a panel or two, Superman can end up defeating Death in a battle, and this "Death" destroys all universes, LOL, both points, absolute bullshit.
I must say: the irony of you crying foul on cropped panels made me chuckle a bit. 😂

But anyway, here are the full pages as requested:

-MoS #104 (2000)

Will that suffice, or should I post the entire comic as well..? 🙂

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He warps one reality. As is common in comics, warping one reality affects all
Mxy is explicitly referring to EJ affecting the higher dimensions in DC, in addition to the mainstream universe... Which means Joker's influence had already spread beyond the mainstream 3D creation very early in the arc... This is important, because his influence expanded exponentially by the end of the story.

tl;dr
Joker may have only intended to muck with the prime universe, but that doesn't change the fact that he ended up warping/affecting infinitely more... cuz he was an inept n00b, whose energies were inadvertently affecting the whole of DC(higher dimensions and all.) 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Wanda doesnt relate here friend, but the rest of your post relates to what Spectre stated. Spectre said, if Joker keeps warping the single prime universe, eventually all realities will collapse because of it. Spectre used an analogy to clarify his point: basically pulling on a string (single prime universe) until the sweater (all realities) untwine (collapses). That's NOT verbatim, but it was something to that affect. ---- As for the 5 dimension haywire panel: context please, post Full page, Prior page and Following page. I mean when people post a panel or two, Superman can end up defeating Death in a battle, and this "Death" destroys all universes, LOL, both points, absolute bullshit. Thanks. As for my groin luv, my thumbs up was to sting the forum ninny more than anything, since he trolled me in the other active thread I participated in and made me waste my time.

Agreed. On the Wanda point, I was showing another example of an effect similar to EJ. Her chaos wave does at the very least the same damage as EJ does and no one will proclaim her as even close to LT. HoM Wanda vs EJ would be a better battle:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56904/1473912-chaos_wave_destroy_creation_01.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56904/1242771-w4qb8.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/53388/1433801-uncanny_491_dcp_0031_32.jpg

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No. Michael and Lucifer = LT.

Michael and Lucifer represent the cosmic balance of DC
Just like LT represents that of marvel.

Spectre is less than LT.

LT would have defeated Antimonitor.


Lucifer and Michael are the power of God. LT isn't on that level.

By which feat would he stop anti Monitor?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Agreed. On the Wanda point, I was showing another example of an effect similar to EJ. Her chaos wave does at the very least the same damage as EJ does and no one will proclaim her as even close to LT. HoM Wanda vs EJ would be a better battle:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56904/1473912-chaos_wave_destroy_creation_01.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/56904/1242771-w4qb8.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/53388/1433801-uncanny_491_dcp_0031_32.jpg


Why wouldn't they call her above LT if he has no implications or feats that put her below him?

LT got shitstomped by an alternate Reed Richards and was in fear of an alternate Galactus.