Darth Vader Vs Omega Red

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its like stilt said. Life drain should be more effective
Sure, IF they got in close proximity to one another... Which would only happen if Vader went full-tard, tbh. /shrug

Originally posted by deathslash
😐 you do know that Yoda was outpacing Sidious when they fought right?
👆

In fact, the canon RotS script tells us that Yoda actually disarmed Palpatine during their battle. That's why Palps had his saber in one scene, but was inextricably without it the next time we saw him. 🙂

👆 vader wins this one. his tk shielding should stop the spores even if they are released and its possible the armor would stop them as well. together they should be more than enough to support the idea that vader tales this. i wonder if the saber would slice through the tentacles....? regardless, vader has too much in his arsenal for arkady.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I wasnt arguing against yoda/sid..i was arguing for

Like any other wound. His hf is decent.

Oh, ok then. It's just that the phrasing (or maybe punctuation) of what you said seemed weird (kinda made it sound like yoda could lose to psylocke)

Anyway, would a decent healing factor really help when it has to repair all of those burned nerve endings? Lastly, Vader really doesn't have to engage him in close combat, he could just throw his saber, or use the tendrils of OR to strangle him to death, or throw him into orbit....

Show me Vader throwing anything into orbit...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Show me Vader throwing anything into orbit...
I mean, when you can casually throw multi ton chunks of rock and debris with enough force to obliterate Y-wings and when you can choke someone out from half the galaxy away, it's pretty heavily implied that you could throw a 250 pound man into orbit.....

Force =/= RL physics.

And half the galaxy blah blah blah feat that Galan always mentions in every possible SW thread is no longer canon.

...Not Vader's, at least.

Palpatine's galaxy-choke feat is still canon, doh! herbhappy

Originally posted by Galan007
...Not Vader's, at least.

Palpatine's galaxy-choke feat is still canon, doh! herbhappy

It's not? I thought Vader choking that dude half a galaxy away happened in empire strikes back?

No, it was some obscure book Galan keeps under his bed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure, IF they got in close proximity to one another... Which would only happen if Vader went full-tard, tbh. /shrug

I can see it. He likes to get up close and personal.

Originally posted by deathslash
Oh, ok then. It's just that the phrasing (or maybe punctuation) of what you said seemed weird (kinda made it sound like yoda could lose to psylocke)

Anyway, would a decent healing factor really help when it has to repair all of those burned nerve endings? Lastly, Vader really doesn't have to engage him in close combat, he could just throw his saber, or use the tendrils of OR to strangle him to death, or throw him into orbit....

I was typing fast. I did say she could beat an average user though, maybe more depending on how her tk is written. She would by no means get wrecked.

Yes. The sabers effects arent unique at all.

Youre lowballing with the last statmenrts. Even with cybernetics/force application of strength Red is stronger. More durable. Also has Vader force choked mid-fight? I kinda recall it recrntly buy iirc it was brushed off. Its more a subordinate intimidation tool than anything else.

Originally posted by Sin I AM

I was typing fast. I did say she could beat an average user though, maybe more depending on how her tk is written. She would by no means get wrecked.

Yes. The sabers effects arent unique at all.

Youre lowballing with the last statmenrts. Even with cybernetics/force application of strength Red is stronger. More durable. Also has Vader force choked mid-fight? I kinda recall it recrntly buy iirc it was brushed off. Its more a subordinate intimidation tool than anything else.

ok then.

what if he loses a full limb?

I never said that vader was physically stronger. He has definitely force choked his opponents on several different occasions. He did it to Barriss Offee when he got pissed, did it to Ventress when he got pissed, and has done it to multiple other jedi.

Disney has erased a good share of his (and everyone else's) feats, though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Disney has erased a good share of his (and everyone else's) feats, though.
everything that I just referenced is still canon though.

Originally posted by deathslash
ok then.

what if he loses a full limb?

I never said that vader was physically stronger. He has definitely force choked his opponents on several different occasions. He did it to Barriss Offee when he got pissed, did it to Ventress when he got pissed, and has done it to multiple other jedi.

Well he routinely fights logan so...doutful. plus his carbondanium wont allow that.

Take your word. I dont remember

Force push into orbit is moot because the OP says no BFR. facepalm

Right now I thought only the movies and comics were canon. Can this be verified?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Well he routinely fights logan so...doutful. plus his carbondanium wont allow that.

Take your word. I dont remember

you don't have to take my word.
Force choke is at 2:50
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u6_0Y4nnylA
Force choke is at 0:50
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFw4see3v8o

Keep in mind, this is him as Anakin; a time I which he tried not to use dark side abilities to kill his enemies. Here he is as Vader, casually lolstomping Kanan and Ezra.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c-jQL-0oxTA

Originally posted by Badabing
Force push into orbit is moot because the OP says no BFR. facepalm

Right now I thought only the movies and comics were canon. Can this be verified?

the clone wars TV show is still canon.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon
This in particular says it all.
"As of April 25, 2014, the only previously published materials that are considered canon are the six Star Wars films, the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series and film, and the stand-alone Dark Horse Comics arc Star Wars: Darth Maul—Son of Dathomir."

Originally posted by deathslash
you don't have to take my word.
Force choke is at 2:50
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u6_0Y4nnylA
Force choke is at 0:50
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFw4see3v8o

Keep in mind, this is him as Anakin; a time I which he tried not to use dark side abilities to kill his enemies. Here he is as Vader, casually lolstomping Kanan and Ezra.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c-jQL-0oxTA
the clone wars TV show is still canon.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon
This in particular says it all.
"As of April 25, 2014, the only previously published materials that are considered canon are the six Star Wars films, the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series and film, and the stand-alone Dark Horse Comics arc Star Wars: Darth Maul—Son of Dathomir."

Good post. Lol at the last fight tho.

I still dont see how this applies to OR who is more durable than the average flatscan

Originally posted by Badabing
Right now I thought only the movies and comics were canon. Can this be verified?
The films, TV shows(ie. Clone Wars & Rebels), and any comics/novels released after Disney bought the franchise in April, 2014 are all that's canon nowadays. Everything else is dubbed non-canon/Legends material.

The good thing about this is that everything is of equal canonicity now. IOW, a feat that occurs in a comic is just as valid as a feat that occurs in a film... But it didn't used to be that way. There used to be 'levels' of canonicity in SW -- which was a convo-f*cking-luted mess(especially when people started bringing up RPG books and such.) 😘

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Good post. Lol at the last fight tho.

I still dont see how this applies to OR who is more durable than the average flatscan

I posted the last fight mainly because I like seeing the Rebels characters get stomped on and because I know that you have a similar love of sadism. With that said, it's still a pretty good example of how Vader can and does go for straight up force ownage rather than pure dueling.

I'm very pleased that you asked this question actually. The fight against Kanan and Ezra also serves another purpose. Vader has two AT-ST's fall on top of him and then rather casually lifts both of them off of him. That's multi-ton level tk right there. Not only that, but in Star Wars issue #1 he holds an AT-AT in place when Han tries to use it to crush him (he also used the force to choke and break the necks of multiple people). In the very first issue of the current Vader comic, he also used the force to slam freaking Sidious into a wall (the very same Sidious that can choke even Dooku from a galaxy away).

What I'm saying is, Vader clearly has multi-ton tk and based off of established feats and the actual power scaling hierarchy of Star Wars, Vader is more than capable of crushing Arkady's windpipe and snapping his neck.

Originally posted by deathslash
I posted the last fight mainly because I like seeing the Rebels characters get stomped on and because I know that you have a similar love of sadism. With that said, it's still a pretty good example of how Vader can and does go for straight up force ownage rather than pure dueling.

I'm very pleased that you asked this question actually. The fight against Kanan and Ezra also serves another purpose. Vader has two AT-ST's fall on top of him and then rather casually lifts both of them off of him. That's multi-ton level tk right there. Not only that, but in Star Wars issue #1 he holds an AT-AT in place when Han tries to use it to crush him (he also used the force to choke and break the necks of multiple people). In the very first issue of the current Vader comic, he also used the force to slam freaking Sidious into a wall (the very same Sidious that can choke even Dooku from a galaxy away).

What I'm saying is, Vader clearly has multi-ton tk and based off of established feats and the actual power scaling hierarchy of Star Wars, Vader is more than capable of crushing Arkady's windpipe and snapping his neck.

Another good post and yea i enjoyed that scene.

Whats your thoughts on life force drain?