Darth Vader Vs Omega Red

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Another good post and yea i enjoyed that scene.

Whats your thoughts on life force drain?

It's also debatable whether Arkady can even get close enough to Vader considering the massively powerful tk that can be used to move OR to a safe distance. There's also the lightsaber which can still be thrown and when you factor in the force choke, force crush, force healing, and force enhancing that Vader can employ, it becomes less of a "does Vader have an answer for this" and more of a "can Omega Red counter any of these" scenario.

Originally posted by deathslash
it could work, but between Vader's suit, and tk shields, I highly doubt it.

It's also debatable whether Arkady can even get close enough to Vader considering the massively powerful tk that can be used to move OR to a safe distance. There's also the lightsaber which can still be thrown and when you factor in the force choke, force crush, force healing, and force enhancing that Vader can employ, it becomes less of a "does Vader have an answer for this" and more of a "can Omega Red counter any of these" scenario.

He does. His durabilty/hf is an snswer to all save tk which isnt something Red hasnt seen. Plus i forsee that helmet getting damaged and those spores doing some damage

Originally posted by Sin I AM
He does. His durabilty/hf is an snswer to all save tk which isnt something Red hasnt seen. Plus i forsee that helmet getting damaged and those spores doing some damage

Also, Vader's helmet is made out of the same material that deflected a saber strike from Luke Skywalker and his precog is still a thing so.....

^^^thanks for all the input, desthslash. Great to see when clicking on a thread.

Originally posted by deathslash
they're both fighting to the best of their ability though. What stops Vader from suspending him in air and then sending that lightsaber through his brain?

Also, Vader's helmet is made out of the same material that deflected a saber strike from Luke Skywalker and his precog is still a thing so.....

Exactly you seem as if struck by the notion that its Vaders fight to lose. Its not. Vader just doesnt have the blunt force durability and if OR can fight Logan for hours and get sliced, stabbed and gutted a saber really aint beyond his threshold. Yes Vader COULD ragdoll him but that ooc. He'll likely do a few force pushes, throw some rocks...i doubt a force choke will be part of his assault

How is vader gonna contend with coils?

What's OR's range, with coils and with spores/drain?

Vaders point blank tanked being crushed by tons of water from a dam breaking and shots from an AT-AT which can pulverize through Rebel bases. I can't post scans ATM but he's way more durable than some of the posts here, that's not even counting his Cymoon 1 feat which only top tier Xmen telepaths could replicate. Omega is going to get raped by telekinesis

If it's composite Vader he's got some amazing durability feats as well in Legends

OR only wins if he can take Vader by surprise with spores, and if he gets in some lucky strikes.

Most scenarios favour Vader, and any advanced knowledge improves his odds.

I didnt think Vader's invulnerability was that high. Really impressive.
This really might be his fight to lose.

Originally posted by carthage
Vaders point blank tanked being crushed by tons of water from a dam breaking and shots from an AT-AT which can pulverize through Rebel bases. I can't post scans ATM but he's way more durable than some of the posts here, that's not even counting his Cymoon 1 feat which only top tier Xmen telepaths could replicate. Omega is going to get raped by telekinesis

If it's composite Vader he's got some amazing durability feats as well in Legends

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Exactly you seem as if struck by the notion that its Vaders fight to lose. Its not. Vader just doesnt have the blunt force durability and if OR can fight Logan for hours and get sliced, stabbed and gutted a saber really aint beyond his threshold. Yes Vader COULD ragdoll him but that ooc. He'll likely do a few force pushes, throw some rocks...i doubt a force choke will be part of his assault

How is vader gonna contend with coils?

1. This is indeed his fight to lose. I'll explain below.

2. Is this really a statement? Fine, I'll indulge you and prove that his durability is enough.
Has two AT-ST's fall on top of him. Gets up without even a single scratch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PFK1YmIwgls

Tanks AT-AT blasts:
https://m.imgur.com/TYNSlIc

Gets bashed by an adrenaline enhanced Rancor. Just fine:
https://m.imgur.com/UqvwLpB

Survives being on a whale ship as it literally crashes and explodes on impact with the Executor:
https://m.imgur.com/a/NPTeC

Survives the destruction of an entire weapons factory.
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125553-vader+survives+factory+explosion.jpg

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125554-vader+survives+factory+explosion2.jpg

With that said, I'm not sure how Arkady is even going to hit him since he can do this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125548-blocks+flames.png

And this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125550-force+bubble+protects+from+rubble.jpg

And since he's fast enough to block all of these:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125590-creates+dozens+of+after+images.jpg

4. And yet in his most recent fight with Deadpool, he solidly lost and was even getting cut up by Wade's completely normal sword. Have you actually read anything with Omega Red in it recently? He's tough, but not nearly what you're making him out to be.

5. Force choke is clearly one of his go to methods for killing.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628382-chokes+an+imperial+orbiting+the+planet+he+was+on.jpg

https://m.imgur.com/LLog4Hi

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5008371-double+force+choke.jpg

Matter of fact, choking people or snapping their necks is what he does almost every time. This is immediately after taking AT-AT fire btw:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628392-withstands+atat+fire+and+breaks+a+clones+neck.jpg

6. How will the coils reach him if Vader holds him a safe distance away? Better yet, how will the coils hit the guy that essentially was first holding off
https://m.imgur.com/CzS8H8V

And then beating an enhanced version of Grievous:
https://m.imgur.com/a/4HmLN

Or fighting two cybernetically enhanced warriors with 20 years of training.
https://m.imgur.com/a/lSANN

And then having the upper hand even when he gets jumped:
https://m.imgur.com/a/s5zxq

Oh my, is this Vader going for the easy win with tk?
https://m.imgur.com/a/CaLh4

If you want, I can post some more scans or sources, as this has been a very fun discussion, but still:
https://i.imgur.com/tlaq5zU_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

If you want, I can post some more scans or sources, as this has been a very fun discussion, but still:
https://i.imgur.com/tlaq5zU_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

ouch.

Originally posted by deathslash

Tanks AT-AT blasts:
https://m.imgur.com/TYNSlIc

"Tanking" something is this:

Vader narrowly dodged them beams, granted he must've been affected somewhat by AoE, but he did not take any of these blasts directly.

^^^thats 'no selling'.

These terms are used interchangeably.

By ppl who use the terms incorrectly, yes.

Not interested in a "stilt Defends a silly ass point for multiple replies" conversation over it though.
I'll check back later, see if anything of note's been posted.

Check your prostate 😂

Originally posted by deathslash
4. And yet in his most recent fight with Deadpool, he solidly lost and was even getting cut up by Wade's completely normal sword. Have you actually read anything with Omega Red in it recently? He's tough, but not nearly what you're making him out to be.

It was a clone...

Dark Weber.

Nothing new...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Check your prostate 😂

...^^^point proven.
Thanks.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Tanking" something is this:

Vader narrowly dodged them beams, granted he must've been affected somewhat by AoE, but he did not take any of these blasts directly.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628392-withstands+atat+fire+and+breaks+a+clones+neck.jpg