Darth Vader Vs Omega Red

Started by StiltmanFTW4 pages

Originally posted by deathslash
point taken, he didn't take the blasts directly. With that said, all they managed to do was bury him under rubble and knock off his helmet so....

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628392-withstands+atat+fire+and+breaks+a+clones+neck.jpg

Yeah, I know. Pretty impressive.

I liked how he actually deflected a bolt from Rebels' tank.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, I know. Pretty impressive.

I liked how he actually deflected a bolt from Rebels' tank.

IIRC, he also reflected a blast from a rebel ship as well....

...which means its still very impresive. 👆

Originally posted by deathslash
Alright, I know it's been like a full day since you posted this, but I needed time to properly research for my counter argument. Here it goes:

1. This is indeed his fight to lose. I'll explain below.

2. Is this really a statement? Fine, I'll indulge you and prove that his durability is enough.
Has two AT-ST's fall on top of him. Gets up without even a single scratch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PFK1YmIwgls

Tanks AT-AT blasts:
https://m.imgur.com/TYNSlIc

Gets bashed by an adrenaline enhanced Rancor. Just fine:
https://m.imgur.com/UqvwLpB

Survives being on a whale ship as it literally crashes and explodes on impact with the Executor:
https://m.imgur.com/a/NPTeC

Survives the destruction of an entire weapons factory.
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125553-vader+survives+factory+explosion.jpg

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125554-vader+survives+factory+explosion2.jpg

With that said, I'm not sure how Arkady is even going to hit him since he can do this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125548-blocks+flames.png

And this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125550-force+bubble+protects+from+rubble.jpg

And since he's fast enough to block all of these:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125590-creates+dozens+of+after+images.jpg

4. And yet in his most recent fight with Deadpool, he solidly lost and was even getting cut up by Wade's completely normal sword. Have you actually read anything with Omega Red in it recently? He's tough, but not nearly what you're making him out to be.

5. Force choke is clearly one of his go to methods for killing.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628382-chokes+an+imperial+orbiting+the+planet+he+was+on.jpg

https://m.imgur.com/LLog4Hi

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5008371-double+force+choke.jpg

Matter of fact, choking people or snapping their necks is what he does almost every time. This is immediately after taking AT-AT fire btw:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628392-withstands+atat+fire+and+breaks+a+clones+neck.jpg

6. How will the coils reach him if Vader holds him a safe distance away? Better yet, how will the coils hit the guy that essentially was first holding off
https://m.imgur.com/CzS8H8V

And then beating an enhanced version of Grievous:
https://m.imgur.com/a/4HmLN

Or fighting two cybernetically enhanced warriors with 20 years of training.
https://m.imgur.com/a/lSANN

And then having the upper hand even when he gets jumped:
https://m.imgur.com/a/s5zxq

Oh my, is this Vader going for the easy win with tk?
https://m.imgur.com/a/CaLh4

If you want, I can post some more scans or sources, as this has been a very fun discussion, but still:
https://i.imgur.com/tlaq5zU_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

Excellent post. I have no counter at the moment.

Omega red for the win

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Excellent post. I have no counter at the moment.

4) Deadpool fought a clone from Remender's UXF. The real OR has been revived in X-Men: Gold series... which was released like a month ago.

Disney's new canon (as Galan nicely elaborated on, 2nd page) and KMC full capacity rule pretty much guarantees Vader will mow down most metas in a message board setting, though. At least those below the herald tier.

^^^I like Vader as able to be used outside the movie forum.
He's a dominant opponent.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
4) Deadpool fought a clone from Remender's UXF. The real OR has been revived in X-Men: Gold series... which was released like a month ago.

Disney's new canon (as Galan nicely elaborated on, 2nd page) and KMC full capacity rule pretty much guarantees Vader will mow down most metas in a message board setting, though. At least those below the herald tier.

honest question, does it matter that much if it was a clone? Deadpool still showed the reactionary speed needed to hold his own and I personally wouldn't put him on Vader's level speed (or skill) wise. Not to mention that Wade's weapons, armor, and powers aren't on Vader's level....

Laura Kinney is a clone of Wolverine.

Originally posted by deathslash
honest question, does it matter that much if it was a clone? Deadpool still showed the reactionary speed needed to hold his own and I personally wouldn't put him on Vader's level speed (or skill) wise. Not to mention that Wade's weapons, armor, and powers aren't on Vader's level....

Yes, it does matter a lot... and you know it.

Wolverine's literally one-shotted that clone:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2765796-u_18.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, it does matter a lot... and you know it.

Wolverine's literally one-shotted that clone:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2765796-u_18.jpg

good God...... what is going on with that art?

The OR clone was a midget lol.

Originally posted by deathslash
good God...... what is going on with that art?

Phil Noto. Definitely not his best work... and he wasn't just a fill-in, unfortunately 😘

Originally posted by deathslash
Alright, I know it's been like a full day since you posted this, but I needed time to properly research for my counter argument. Here it goes:

1. This is indeed his fight to lose. I'll explain below.

2. Is this really a statement? Fine, I'll indulge you and prove that his durability is enough.
Has two AT-ST's fall on top of him. Gets up without even a single scratch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PFK1YmIwgls

Tanks AT-AT blasts:
https://m.imgur.com/TYNSlIc

Gets bashed by an adrenaline enhanced Rancor. Just fine:
https://m.imgur.com/UqvwLpB

Survives being on a whale ship as it literally crashes and explodes on impact with the Executor:
https://m.imgur.com/a/NPTeC

Survives the destruction of an entire weapons factory.
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125553-vader+survives+factory+explosion.jpg

https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125554-vader+survives+factory+explosion2.jpg

With that said, I'm not sure how Arkady is even going to hit him since he can do this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125548-blocks+flames.png

And this:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125550-force+bubble+protects+from+rubble.jpg

And since he's fast enough to block all of these:
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5125590-creates+dozens+of+after+images.jpg

4. And yet in his most recent fight with Deadpool, he solidly lost and was even getting cut up by Wade's completely normal sword. Have you actually read anything with Omega Red in it recently? He's tough, but not nearly what you're making him out to be.

5. Force choke is clearly one of his go to methods for killing.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628382-chokes+an+imperial+orbiting+the+planet+he+was+on.jpg

https://m.imgur.com/LLog4Hi

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5008371-double+force+choke.jpg

Matter of fact, choking people or snapping their necks is what he does almost every time. This is immediately after taking AT-AT fire btw:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/4628392-withstands+atat+fire+and+breaks+a+clones+neck.jpg

6. How will the coils reach him if Vader holds him a safe distance away? Better yet, how will the coils hit the guy that essentially was first holding off
https://m.imgur.com/CzS8H8V

And then beating an enhanced version of Grievous:
https://m.imgur.com/a/4HmLN

Or fighting two cybernetically enhanced warriors with 20 years of training.
https://m.imgur.com/a/lSANN

And then having the upper hand even when he gets jumped:
https://m.imgur.com/a/s5zxq

Oh my, is this Vader going for the easy win with tk?
https://m.imgur.com/a/CaLh4

If you want, I can post some more scans or sources, as this has been a very fun discussion, but still:
https://i.imgur.com/tlaq5zU_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

👆

And not that it matters much in *this* particular match, but Vader using the Force to override Cylo's technopathy(which had deactivated his ENTIRE suit, mind you) was just f*cking beastly, imo. The full scene beautifully depicts how much pain/hate/anger Vader was burdened with, and how he could tap/harness it to augment the shit out of his powers at any given time:
https://s26.postimg.org/ed5uu5xvt/vader_1.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/aw3sr6ytl/vader_2.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/9sjof8e6h/vader_3.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/mu5d532kp/vader_4.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/u8uoxgog9/vader_5.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/djt91jrux/vader_6.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/7drsusxxl/vader_7.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/qk4zxzefd/vader_8.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/ivcr003bd/vader_9.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5fpqajutl/vader_10.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/nsqbl45ah/vader_11.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/aajf8tt55/vader_12.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/w226ziz0p/vader_13.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/3qgn2hf49/vader_14.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/xjnnb33rd/vader_15.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/zcqjzeoy1/vader_16.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/z2j1g2abt/vader_17.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/ybqbaa7yh/vader_18.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/6fkmjzzd5/vader_19.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/o4cdbmb49/vader_20.jpg

"NOTHING is impossible for the Force." droolio

Darth Vader comic was awesome. I liked the investigator, thought Vader letting him do what he felt he had to do was a waste.

Originally posted by Galan007
👆

And not that it matters much in *this* particular match, but Vader using the Force to override Cylo's technopathy(which had deactivated his ENTIRE suit, mind you) was just f*cking beastly, imo. The full scene beautifully depicts how much pain/hate/anger Vader was burdened with, and how he could tap/harness it to augment the shit out of his powers at any given time:
https://s26.postimg.org/ed5uu5xvt/vader_1.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/aw3sr6ytl/vader_2.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/9sjof8e6h/vader_3.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/mu5d532kp/vader_4.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/u8uoxgog9/vader_5.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/djt91jrux/vader_6.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/7drsusxxl/vader_7.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/qk4zxzefd/vader_8.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/ivcr003bd/vader_9.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5fpqajutl/vader_10.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/nsqbl45ah/vader_11.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/aajf8tt55/vader_12.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/w226ziz0p/vader_13.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/3qgn2hf49/vader_14.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/xjnnb33rd/vader_15.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/zcqjzeoy1/vader_16.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/z2j1g2abt/vader_17.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/ybqbaa7yh/vader_18.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/6fkmjzzd5/vader_19.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/o4cdbmb49/vader_20.jpg

"NOTHING is impossible for the Force." droolio

👆 that entire series was wonderful. The current one, mot so much.