Well it's difficult to say. Darth Revan>SWTOR Vitiate>Novel Vitiate by virtue of Darth Revan being one of the three most powerful Sith ever (along with Sheev and Caedus), and Malak>>Kun>TOTJ Vitiate by virtue of the quotes.
it all depends on the gap between TOTJ Vitiate and Novel Vitiate, and the gap between Malak and Darth Revan.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Well it's difficult to say. Darth Revan>SWTOR Vitiate>Novel Vitiate by virtue of Darth Revan being one of the three most powerful Sith ever (along with Sheev and Caedus), and Malak>>Kun>TOTJ Vitiate by virtue of the quotes.it all depends on the gap between TOTJ Vitiate and Novel Vitiate, and the gap between Malak and Darth Revan.
The Darth Revan quote was debunked.
Where is the evidence that "Revan Reborn" was "far stronger" than Darth Malak?
To the dogs with that, where is the evidence that Reborn Revan was far stronger than the Revan earlier in the novel?
Where is the evidence that Early Novel Revan wouldn't do much better than what Reborn Revan did, especially since Reborn Revan was immensely hindered by not using the force for 3 solid years( and having remnants of force hindering drugs in his system), and in the presence of one of the strongest dark side nexuses in the galaxy.
And it did hinder him, because he was predominantly a light side user and he even said that the dark side clouded his sight on Dromund Kaas. If he was using both sides together, the presence of the Nexus wouldn't have an effect on him.
Originally posted by BlueTiger1144
Where is the evidence that "Revan Reborn" was "far stronger" than Darth Malak?
The fact that KOTOR Revan who, as you would put it, was "immensely hindered" by the nexus of the Star Forge, having fought through hordes of sith, advanced droids, and Bastila, still defeated an SF Malak who had 8 jedi bodies to replenish his force energies. KOTOR Revan is inferior to Revan Reborn, due to the fact that Revan Reborn has full mastery of the dark side due to recovering all his memories (i.e. the memories of when he was Darth Revan, the libraries of Malachor V, "all the knowledge he could have learned" from the Jedi Order prior to the Mando Wars, etc).
Originally posted by BlueTiger1144
To the dogs with that, where is the evidence that Reborn Revan was far stronger than the Revan earlier in the novel?
Answered above.
Originally posted by BlueTiger1144
Where is the evidence that Early Novel Revan wouldn't do much better than what Reborn Revan did, especially since Reborn Revan was immensely hindered by not using the force for 3 solid years( and having remnants of force hindering drugs in his system), and in the presence of one of the strongest dark side nexuses in the galaxy.
And it did hinder him, because he was predominantly a light side user and he even said that the dark side clouded his sight on Dromund Kaas. If he was using both sides together, the presence of the Nexus wouldn't have an effect on him.
First of all, Scourge gives Revan medication to flush the drugs out of his system. Also considering that Revan has the ability to flush out toxins himself, and having a day to recover, I see no evidence anywhere pointing towards the idea Revan was hindered from the drugs while fighting Vitiate.
Revan not having used the force for 3 solid years sure didn't seem to affect him after having the drugs purged from his system, recovering all his force knowledge, and casually catching and deflecting Nyriss's charged FLS. It's pretty clear that Revan after getting his mask/memories back isn't incredibly hindered, and certainly not to the point that he's weaker than an "immensely hindered" KOTOR Revan.
And it's explicitly stated in the Revan Novel that Revan draws on both the light and dark sides on the force for strength. Just because the dark side "clouds his vision", doesn't mean the nexus is severely hindering him.
You're going to have to really reach to argue SF Malak > Revan Reborn > Vitiate. 😂
Originally posted by Azronger
Only with the aid of Dromund Kaas' nexus. He doesn't have that here.
And Malak had the benefit of 8 Jedi bodies to replenish, and the ability to fight against a weaker version of Revan who would be even more weakened (since he doesn't draw on the DS in KOTOR) who had just fought through the SF.
Malak gets curbed.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
And Malak had the benefit of 8 Jedi bodies to replenish, and the ability to fight against a weaker version of Revan who would be even more weakened (since he doesn't draw on the DS in KOTOR) who had just fought through the SF.Malak gets curbed.
I fail to see the connection to non-amped novel Vitiate. Your claims of him being curbed are baseless.