Trump to end DACA as promised with 6 month caveat

It would be nice if Congress came together to pass something for these people who came here through no fault of their own. In this political climate, though, I'm not holding my breath.

Originally posted by BackFire
It would be nice if Congress came together to pass something for these people who came here through no fault of their own. In this political climate, though, I'm not holding my breath.

Do you believe DACA was constitutional?

Better yet, how was it unconstitutional?

Originally posted by Robtard
Better yet, how was it unconstitutional?

Lol no Rob, I asked if he thought it was constitutional. If you want to answer for him go ahead and tell my why you think it is.

Originally posted by Robtard
Better yet, how was it unconstitutional?

Because Obama said it was before he did it. And two, the SC said DAPA was unconstitutional.

Originally posted by Surtur
Do you believe DACA was constitutional?

I don't know. I've not researched the issue enough to have a valid opinion on that aspect of it.

It's 100% unconstitutional that is why no one can file an order to block his decision.

I bet you not a single federal lawsuit will be filed.

Originally posted by Sable
It's 100% unconstitutional that is why no one can file an order to block his decision.

I bet you not a single federal lawsuit will be filed.

Obama himself also said it was temporary. Now, this first came about in 2012. Here we are 5 years later. Democrats had 4 years or so to figure out an actual solution as opposed to this temporary stuff. Why didn't they?

I echo Rob's question, what exactly about it is unconstitutional?

I was under the impression that the President had full authority on things like immigration. Why does that authority not apply here?

Originally posted by Sable
My bad I think this needs 60. But still think if Dems come together it can.pass

Nah. I doubt they're getting that many Republican votes even in the current Congress which is hilariously unfriendly towards Trump.

Even then if that were to somehow happen, Trump won't sign it and then they'd need a 2/3rds majority in both houses for this to become law. Too many longshots.

Originally posted by BackFire
I echo Rob's question, what exactly about it is unconstitutional?

I was under the impression that the President had full authority on things like immigration. Why does that authority not apply here?

Bingo. That's how we look at laws and the President's powers, "is it unconstitutional".

Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo. That's how we look at laws and the President's powers, "is it unconstitutional".

So you do not think it is unconstitutional I take it. Why is that?

Originally posted by BackFire
I echo Rob's question, what exactly about it is unconstitutional?

I was under the impression that the President had full authority on things like immigration. Why does that authority not apply here?

Because the President was given statutorial authority by Congress to block incoming foreigners from entry. The Constitution nor Congress gave him power to re classify whole groups or people as legal.

Again if this was illegal for him to do. There would be a Court challenge. There won't be.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nah. I doubt they're getting that many Republican votes even in the current Congress which is hilariously unfriendly towards Trump.

Even then if that were to somehow happen, Trump won't sign it and then they'd need a 2/3rds majority in both houses for this to become law. Too many longshots.

Let's make some gentleman's bets.

I bet Dems won't come to the table at all and if they do. It won't be more then 30.

Originally posted by Sable
Because the President was given statutorial authority by Congress to block incoming foreigners from entry. The Constitution nor Congress gave him power to re classify whole groups or people as legal.

Again if this was illegal for him to do. There would be a Court challenge. There won't be.

Remind me though, which party had more control in Congress in 2012 when DACA was passed?

Dems had complete control.

Also the SC rules DAPA as unconstitutional which this program mirrors.
DAPA struck down

Originally posted by Surtur
So you do not think it is unconstitutional I take it. Why is that?

I don't know with 100% certainty. But I'm not going to run around yelling "it's not constitutional!" at everything just because it was Obama, like you people.

Originally posted by Sable
Dems had complete control.

Also the SC rules DAPA as unconstitutional which this program mirrors.
DAPA struck down

Interesting. Coming here illegally was...well, illegal lol. So was he not in effect saying "do not enforce the law on this select group of people" ?

Wait, didn't he also talk about how we are a nation of laws and how people who "cut in line" should not be rewarded?

Rob the SC ruled DAPA as unconstitutional which this program mirrors.
DAPA struck down

Originally posted by Surtur
Interesting. Coming here illegally was...well, illegal lol. So was he not in effect saying "do not enforce the law on this select group of people" ?

Wait, didn't he also talk about how we are a nation of laws and how people who "cut in line" should not be rewarded?

He did. He also said he didn't have the power and it was unconstitutional to do what he ended up doing. He was correct which is why DAPA was struck down which is the same program but only for the Parents.