Trump to end DACA as promised with 6 month caveat

Originally posted by Sable
He did. He also said he didn't have the power and it was unconstitutional to do what he ended up doing. He was correct which is why DAPA was struck down which is the same program but only for the Parents.

One could almost say that Obama was displaying weasel-like behavior then.

Originally posted by Sable
Rob the SC ruled DAPA as unconstitutional which this program mirrors.
DAPA struck down

They have different names, Sable. They're not the same.

The only differece is P stands for Parents, and C stands for Children.

So yes at the core they are exactly the same.

I am sure you thought DAPA was Constitutional.

Originally posted by Surtur
One could almost say that Obama was displaying weasel-like behavior then.

Or he was against it before he was for it.

Parents are not their children, Sable. It's entirely different. Also, think of the children.

Originally posted by Sable
Or he was against it before he was for it.

Remember though, on more than one occasion when he said he didn't have the power to do it he also lamented the fact he didn't have the power to do it.

It is so bizarre to hear him talk about how we are a nation of laws, oh please. Did you hear how the dipshit Mayor of Chicago responded? Essentially said it doesn't matter what is decided, said this would be a "Trump free zone".

I am thinking of the children Rob. Pass a law legally that doesn't unilaterally bypass Congress that stands up to SC muster.

Unlike DAPA where Obama got everyone's hopes up by doing the exact opposite and destroying everyone's lives.

I think the children should be allowed to stay legally. Not executive amnesty that can be undone easily.

Originally posted by Sable
I am thinking of the children Rob. Pass a law legally that doesn't unilaterally bypass Congress that stands up to SC muster.

Unlike DAPA where Obama got everyone's hopes up by doing the exact opposite and destroying everyone's lives.

I think the children should be allowed to stay legally. Not executive amnesty that can be undone easily.

Notice how you rarely see people place any blame on the parents who brought the kids here illegally?

I also think the people already covered under DACA will most likely not be deported. They will be allowed to stay.

However, getting rid of this now takes away incentive for people to try to come here illegally because they think at least their kids can stay. So that is good.

Originally posted by Surtur
Did you hear how the dipshit Mayor of Chicago responded? Essentially said it doesn't matter what is decided, said this would be a "Trump free zone".

I enjoy how #triggered you get whenever someone attacks your precious hero

I don't blame the people for wanting to come here. I blame the politicians for the false hope they give.

Originally posted by Surtur
Notice how you rarely see people place any blame on the parents who brought the kids here illegally?

Because parents seeking a better lives for their children is something we should shit on parents for? Lol, this guy

Originally posted by Robtard
Because parents seeking a better lives for their children is something we should shit on parents for? Lol, this guy

And how good would their lives have been if they were forced to separate?

Originally posted by Surtur
And how good would their lives have been if they were forced to separate?

Easy solution their chief, don't separate children from their caring parents. /duh

Which is exactly why real laws need to be passed not temporary fixes undone easily.

Originally posted by Robtard
Easy solution their chief, don't separate children from their caring parents. /duh

And the solution to that is to come here through legal means and it won't happen, so you are correct it is easy.

Originally posted by Sable
Because the President was given statutorial authority by Congress to block incoming foreigners from entry. The Constitution nor Congress gave him power to re classify whole groups or people as legal.

Again if this was illegal for him to do. There would be a Court challenge. There won't be.

Hold on. I never said that Trump doing this was illegal. I don't think it is. It's very clearly within his power to make decisions like this. The question was whether it was actually unconstitutional for Obama to implement DACA.

The link you provided doesn't do much to support the idea that it is. The idea that the SC ruled that DAPA was unconstitutional is incorrect, as your own link says it ended in a 4-4 tie vote, and was essentially kicked back down to the lower courts. A tie vote is not a vote that something is unconstitutional.

Furthermore, as the link you provided notes, DAPA is not DACA.

It says the following "First, the outcome in U.S. v Texas has no direct impact on the original DACA program, which was implemented in August 2012...DACA has survived several legal challenges, including one brought by a group of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers and another by Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Both were dismissed in federal court for lack of standing. "

So to summarize, a tie vote in the SC is not a vote that DAPA is unconstitutional, and it's certainly not evidence that a seperate piece of legislation is unconstitutional.

Originally posted by Sable
Which is exactly why real laws need to be passed not temporary fixes undone easily.

And also why I want Democrats to stop whining about laws being enforced when they are so selective in when they want them enforced. Like when the illegal was awarded nearly 200 grand from San Francisco cuz they turned him over to ICE...the excuse was "well they broke the law" lol. That is how some defended it.

Where is that "but they broke the law" now?

Originally posted by Surtur
And the solution to that is to come here through legal means and it won't happen, so you are correct it is easy.

Considering you break the law everyday with your worker's comp fraud, you have no grounds to tell illegals to obey, sport

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering you break the law everyday with your worker's comp fraud, you have no grounds to tell illegals to obey, sport

And if that were true you'd be correct, champ.

It is true, you accidentally confirmed it in other sections of the board, Mr. County Care. Like the unblinking Eye of Sauron, Robtard sees all. Be mad now.