Battle of the Five Armies vs. Game of Thrones (season 7)

60000 shields: (main battle front)
20k from the Stark
30k for the Lannister
10k for the Golden Company hired by Cercei

20000 archers: Combined forces of House Lannister, Stark, Targaryen. (Left at back of main Front)

220 Catapults
400 Scorpions
60000 Wildfire Pots.

5000 Horselords.
3000 men for Westeros Cavalry (Starks, Lannisters, etc)

25000 Soldiers left on reseve (Comprised of the Unsullied, And other minor houses of Westeros)

100000 dead (minor possible number of dead)
40 dead Mammoths
5 packs of wolves (100 wolves)
150 Giants (dead Giants)
25 White Walkers.

3 dragons.

Main Characters: Dany, Tyrion, Cercei, Jamie, Jon, Bran, Night King, and Arya.

* ALL NUMBERS WERE TAKEN TO PUT IT THE FAIREST FOR LoTR (in some cases the minor possible number of individuals were placed). ARMIES OF THE ESSOS EMPIRES WERENT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. NUMBERS WERE BASED ON SEASON 7 ONLY!!

Lets war!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay.

60000 shields: (main battle front)
20k from the Stark
30k for the Lannister
10k for the Golden Company hired by Cercei

20000 archers: Combined forces of House Lannister, Stark, Targaryen. (Left at back of main Front)

220 Catapults
400 Scorpions
60000 Wildfire Pots.

5000 Horselords.
3000 men for Westeros Cavalry (Starks, Lannisters, etc)

25000 Soldiers left on reseve (Comprised of the Unsullied, And other minor houses of Westeros)

100000 dead (minor possible number of dead)
40 dead Mammoths
5 packs of wolves (100 wolves)
150 Giants (dead Giants)
25 White Walkers.

3 dragons.

Main Characters: Dany, Tyrion, Cercei, Jamie, Jon, Bran, Night King, and Arya.

* ALL NUMBERS WERE TAKEN TO PUT IT THE FAIREST FOR LoTR. ARMIES OF THE ESSOS EMPIRES WERENT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. NUMBERS WERE BASED ON SEASON 7 ONLY!!

Lets war!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wildfire pots ? When were these shown and what site gave you these numbers for the battles in season seven ?

Cercei has wildfire. She has maesters to make them.

Most numbers were said by the characters in the several episdodes.

Jon claimed to have 20k soldiers in the north. The Lannisters were known to have more. Possibly twice that number. But i gave you 30 to make it more fair for u.

Cercei also said that she hired 10000 men. The Golden Company.

Dany bought 10000 unsullied..assuming half died it is 5000. Again putting it fair.

The horselords should make 5000. Each Khalasar has 100s of horsemen in their clans..we are talking ALL of them..again fair.

It is also mentioned in the las episode that they believe its 100s of thousands of dead. Again i did 100k exact to make it fair.

There were approx 40 Giants in the army of the wildlings that attacked the wal in the 5th season. It was said by Mace Ryder that many giants were being killed by the Walkers. So 150 is a fair number considering all the pissible tribes of Giants.

Etc etc etc. I havent exaggerated the numbers. They are all the contrary. They were rounded to make it the easiest possible for LoTR.

As i said. I did t included the empires of Essos. So it brings down the number A LOT!

You still want to have war? Hahahahahaha

Surrender now and i will give you the wall!!

Hahahaha 🤣 😈

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Cercei has wildfire. She has maesters to make them.

Most numbers were said by the characters in the several episdodes.

Jon claimed to have 20k soldiers in the north. The Lannisters were known to have more. Possibly twice that number. But i gave you 30 to make it more fair for u.

Cercei also said that she hired 10000 men. The Golden Company.

Dany bought 10000 unsullied..assuming half died it is 5000. Again putting it fair.

The horselords should make 5000. Each Khalasar has 100s of horsemen in their clans..we are talking ALL of them..again fair.

It is also mentioned in the las episode that they believe its 100s of thousands of dead. Again i did 100k exact to make it fair.

There were approx 40 Giants in the army of the wildlings that attacked the wal in the 5th season. It was said by Mace Ryder that many giants were being killed by the Walkers. So 150 is a fair number considering all the pissible tribes of Giants.

Etc etc etc. I havent exaggerated the numbers. They are all the contrary. They were rounded to make it the easiest possible for LoTR.

As i said. I did t included the empires of Essos. So it brings down the number A LOT!

It's only fair we do the one film vs the one season but when it finally airs we can revisit and do the entire Lotr universe vs the entire GoT universe.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You still want to have war? Hahahahahaha

Surrender now and i will give you the wall!!

Hahahaha 🤣 😈

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to provide a link and quit including armies we haven't seen on screen or applications of wildfire we haven't seen this season. That wall would come down quite easily. Smaug would wreck it.

You want me to put links of all the videos from where this evidence was taken? Man it will take me long!!!

Am being fair with you!

And just cause wilfire wasnt seen this season doesnt mean it isnt there!!

Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not see the golden company so we have no idea what or how they'd react in battle. I can provide my source for this I'd like you to find one and we can proceed from there.

It's only fair we do the one film vs the one season but when it finally airs we can revisit and do the entire Lotr universe vs the entire GoT universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to provide a link and quit including armies we haven't seen on screen or applications of wildfire we haven't seen this season. That wall would come down quite easily. Smaug would wreck it.

https://www.google.com.gt/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/55nvms/westeros_army_size_season_7/

This guy explains in detail ALL the troops in season 7. The show the Westeros troops only! And not the Army of the Dead! He is giving evidence of where he got the numbers from! So it is evidence. You can follow his links if your dont believe me.

As you can see I MADE YOU FAVOR. I put a minor number.

Cercei Specifically said in season 7 ep 7 that she hired 10000 Sellswords. Its there. The Golden Company are good fighters believe me.

Still want war?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You want me to put links of all the videos from where this evidence was taken? Man it will take me long!!!

Am being fair with you!

And just cause wilfire wasnt seen this season doesnt mean it isnt there!!

We don't use anything or any other mega tactic unless seen this season. Otherwise things get dicey.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just a site.

We don't use anything or any other mega tactic unless seen this season. Otherwise things get dicey.

So you will limit the Thread to the things Specifically seen on TV? Although they were mentioned on by the Characters in that season!!?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
So you will limit the Thread to the things Specifically seen on TV? Although they were mentioned on by the Characters in that season!!?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Within reason. We don't see this army at all so it's not fair game. We have to at least see a snippet of what they are capable of or see them use mass wildfire this season. If you have a few examples of it that's fine. But you can't say they used wildfire when Stannis showed up and act like they have access to all that since it violates the spirit of the op.

They werent shown but they were known to be there by the Characters of the Series in Season 7. Valid info.

You begin to realize that Battle of the 5 Armies troops arent enought to win.

Better make a thread about GoT vs LoTR entirely. It is more fair for both parties and easier to pick a winner. Till then we can continue our Discussion.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
They werent shown but they were known to be there by the Characters of the Series in Season 7. Valid info.

You begin to realize that Battle of the 5 Armies troops arent enought to win.

Better make a thread about GoT vs LoTR entirely. It is more fair for both parties and easier to pick a winner. Till then we can continue our Discussion.

Composite forces aligned seen in both the extended version of the film vs. the entire season of Game of Thrones.

Op shows it's invalid. I feel differently. The average troop in Lotr is vastly superior than the fodder from GoT.

We have to wait till it concludes to be fair.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Composite forces aligned [B]seen in both the extended version of the film vs. the entire season of Game of Thrones.

Op shows it's invalid. I feel differently. The average troop in Lotr is vastly superior than the fodder from GoT.

We have to wait till it concludes to be fair. [/B]

No. You said the Season 7. It includes all items in season seven not all items seen in season 7.

Those Items where mentioned by the characters so it is there although not seen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Composite forces aligned [B]seen in both the extended version of the film vs. the entire season of Game of Thrones.

Op shows it's invalid. I feel differently. The average troop in Lotr is vastly superior than the fodder from GoT.

We have to wait till it concludes to be fair. [/B]

Make another thread cause this one is dark. No clear winners and no rules especified by you.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
https://www.google.com.gt/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/55nvms/westeros_army_size_season_7/

This guy explains in detail ALL the troops in season 7. The show the Westeros troops only! And not the Army of the Dead! He is giving evidence of where he got the numbers from! So it is evidence. You can follow his links if your dont believe me.

As you can see I MADE YOU FAVOR. I put a minor number.

Cercei Specifically said in season 7 ep 7 that she hired 10000 Sellswords. Its there. The Golden Company are good fighters believe me.

Still want war?

The Golden Company since not shown is off the table. I am also restricting the widespread wildfire usage. I'll have to to look over this in more detail later and we can come to agreement and have our debate from there.

I do want war.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No. You said the Season 7. It includes all items in season seven not all items seen in season 7.

Those Items where mentioned by the characters so it is there although not seen.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Make another thread cause this one is dark. No clear winners and no rules especified by you.

60000 shields: (main battle front)
20k from the Stark
30k for the Lannister

20000 archers: Combined forces of House Lannister, Stark, Targaryen. (Left at back of main Front)

Roughly 1000 Land Siege Weapons (Catapults, Siege Ballistae (Such as Scorpions), Arbalests, Gate Rams, Trebutchets, ect)
60000 Wildfire Pots.

40000 Dothraki Screamers
3000 men for Westeros Cavalry (Starks, Lannisters, etc)

25000 Soldiers left on reserve (Comprised of the Unsullied, And other minor houses of Westeros)

1000 Ships of the Iron Fleet

1000 Ships of the combined the Targaryen, Dorne and Reach navies

100000 Wights (minor possible number of dead)
40 dead Mammoths
5 packs of wolves (100 wolves)
150 Giants (dead Giants)
25 White Walkers
1 Undead Dragon

2 dragons

Main Characters: Dany, Tyrion, Cercei, Jamie, Euron, Jon, Bran, Night King, and Arya.

That's the estimated force of Season 7. It's not set in stone, as I had to speed watch the forst half of the season (Damn network didn't announce the start of the season for me before playing it) and I may be misremembering aprts of numbers, but this is at leats partially refferenced at the end of season 6 as well, so yeah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We should come to an agreement here and start our experimental war thread after we iron out the details.

So youll agree on the numbers I gave you? As I said before. I adjusted the numbers so that Lott Bo5A doesn't get butchered and it is more fair and fun. But as you can see and we discussed before..numbers are at my favor.