Originally posted by carver9
Superman doesn't do well against Doomsday though. Doomsday is a tier above Captain Marvel, Superman and Black Adam. I don't think using him as an example helps your claim. Doomsday took on both Wonder Woman and Superman and was winning.
We just saw Superman holding back against the Ikon armor though. He goes in with kids gloves to see how much any particular character can take. If they can take it, he dials it up. This is something that he always does. Superman has feats that prove that he should have whipped Doomsday by himself, but for some reason he still chose to limit himself. If Superman had King Hyperion's attitude, he probably would have one shot Doomsday before he could have adjusted IMO. Superman was also distracted in that fight, because he knew that Doomsday was going after Jon, so the parent in him kicked in. You read it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jesus H Christ.We go from Billy to Superman to Doomsday and now WW is getting involved.
What does it have to do with Kingdom Come??
In a direct comparison, Billy was out reacted by Superman once he had had enough.
Then, Billy died from a multi megaton nuke.
Hulk wins.
BILLY BATSON DIED FROM A NUKE NOT CAPTAIN MARVEL!!!
Hulk loses.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jesus H Christ.We go from Billy to Superman to Doomsday and now WW is getting involved.
What does it have to do with Kingdom Come??
In a direct comparison, Billy was out reacted by Superman once he had had enough.
Then, Billy died from a multi megaton nuke.
Hulk wins.
We need something to use as comparisons. I don't believe that Billy is as powerful as Superman. He's certainly not as durable, or strong.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 I agree as well.He doesn't have the feats to stack up against this most cunning of Hulks. He was a blazing idiot, don't forget, with the Wisdom of Solomon dulled.
Superman shouldn't be used as a yardstick, because when he had had enough, he could have ripped Billy's head clean off.
You want Marvel to fight Banner under mind control as he was in KINGDOM COME?
If not why mention the fact about " The wisdom of Solomon dulled"?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 I agree as well.He doesn't have the feats to stack up against this most cunning of Hulks. He was a blazing idiot, don't forget, with the Wisdom of Solomon dulled.
Superman shouldn't be used as a yardstick, because when he had had enough, he could have ripped Billy's head clean off.
I have always wondered who the hell Solomon is? Is it King Solomon from the bible, or some ancient nerd named Solomon?
Originally posted by Stoic
We just saw Superman holding back against the Ikon armor though. He goes in with kids gloves to see how much any particular character can take. If they can take it, he dials it up. This is something that he always does. Superman has feats that prove that he should have whipped Doomsday by himself, but for some reason he still chose to limit himself. If Superman had King Hyperion's attitude, he probably would have one shot Doomsday before he could have adjusted IMO. Superman was also distracted in that fight, because he knew that Doomsday was going after Jon, so the parent in him kicked in. You read it.
Superman literally tells us he was going all out against Doomsday in their last fight and him and Wonder Woman was still losing. I don't think your argument holds.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
King Solomon heathen!
Mathew 6:28-29
28 And why do you worry about clothes? Consider how the lilies of the field grow: They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his glory was adorned like one of these.
Just thought that I'd put that out there.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman literally tells us he was going all out against Doomsday in their last fight and him and Wonder Woman was still losing. I don't think your argument holds.
Doomsday adapts right? To put him down, you have to go in for the kill. Superman wasn't fighting that way from the jump. Re-read it.
Originally posted by Stoic
Doomsday adapts right? To put him down, you have to go in for the kill. Superman wasn't fighting that way from the jump. Re-read it.
You're talking about DOS. We don't know how Cap would've done. Maxima did hella good against DD which makes me believe Cap could've done good as well. I'm talking about the latest fight and in their LATEST fight, Doomsday was beating both Superman and Wonder Woman with no issues. He's in a different tier which is the reason I said using him is a bad example. Also, during DOS, Doomsday didn't show any adaptive abilities unless you can point that out for me "during THAT story".
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah it's King Solomon from the Bible.Reputed to be blessed with wisdom by God himself.
As to LoB....that's what standard KC Marvel is. A dullard.
Originally posted by Stoic
Mathew 6:28-29
28 And why do you worry about clothes? Consider how the lilies of the field grow: They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his glory was adorned like one of these.Just thought that I'd put that out there.
It appears you are a believer AKA a NON DARKSAINT!
Originally posted by darthgoober
Been a while since I read the story of Solomon, but wasn't the "wisdom" granted by God actually just the ability to speak with animals? And I'm not trying to downplay Cap with that because I know that the whole idea is that Cap is wise not that he can speak with animals. I was just always under the impression that the fact that he was already so naturally wise(as demonstrated by him asking for wisdom when he could have asked for anything) that God gave him that ability so that he could expand upon his wisdom on his own rather than increase Solomon's wisdom directly.
There's the bit about the babies and the cutting in half bit as well.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There's the bit about the babies and the cutting in half bit as well.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh I know, but I attributed that to natural wisdom as well. I'm not saying that he wasn't gifted with Wisdom by God at birth, I'm just asking in regards to him asking for more wisdom later in his life. When he asked wasn't he just granted the ability to talk with animals?
Nah. The Judgement came directly after he prayed and was blessed with wisdom. Ends with direct attribute of the wisdom amp from God.