Originally posted by carver9
Based off fts, Cap doesn't stand a chance.
He battled KC Superman Toe to Toe and was depicted as a clear rival in all categories pertaining to combat. Kingdom Come Superman ANNIHILATES Banner, Marvel would do the same.
Speed- Advantage Captain Marvel
Ranged attack- Advantage Captain Marvel
Default Strength- Advantage Captain Marvel
skill- Advantage Captain Marvel
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
He battled KC Superman Toe to Toe and was depicted as a clear rival in all categories pertaining to combat. Kingdom Come Superman ANNIHILATES Banner, Marvel would do the same.[b]Speed
- Advantage Captain MarvelRanged attack- Advantage Captain Marvel
Default Strength- Advantage Captain Marvel
skill- Advantage Captain Marvel [/B]
What strength fts does KC Superman have that puts him above WWH? Remember, a weakened Hulk shifted the tectonic plates of a planet 10 times the size of Earth.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The same way he dialed it up against The Sentry?
the Hulk matched the Sentry's power output is all that happened there, because he later turned around and exceeded that level by leaps and bounds. You know what I mean? No? You know when he took that step that nearly sank the Eastern seaboard? Well he was well above the strength level that he was at when he faced off against anyone in the series, and the kicker here is that he was desperately trying his best to dial back his power. All happened on panel. We don't even have to imagine what he would have been like if he decided to pour it on, because we got a full glimpse of it during HOTM. Captain Marvel would get his arse beaten badly against just the Hulk desperately trying to hold back, let alone if he went for broke. From the immortal words of Quanchi "The Hulk is just on another level". Accept this fact, and everything will fit into place perfectly for you.
The thread starter knew that it would be overkill to allow the Green Scar to unleash his full might which is why he nerfed him down to the holding back WW Hulk version. This alone should make you pack it up, and attempt to sell it to your neighbors.
Originally posted by Stoic
the Hulk matched the Sentry's power output is all that happened there, because he later turned around and exceeded that level by leaps and bounds. You know what I mean? No? You know when he took that step that nearly sank the Eastern seaboard? Well he was well above the strength level that he was at when he faced off against anyone in the series, and the kicker here is that he was desperately trying his best to dial back his power. All happened on panel. We don't even have to imagine what he would have been like if he decided to pour it on, because we got a full glimpse of it during HOTM. Captain Marvel would get his arse beaten badly against just the Hulk desperately trying to hold back, let alone if he went for broke. From the immortal words of Quanchi "The Hulk is just on another level". Accept this fact, and everything will fit into place perfectly for you.The thread starter knew that it would be overkill to allow the Green Scar to unleash his full might which is why he nerfed him down to the holding back WW Hulk version. This alone should make you pack it up, and attempt to sell it to your neighbors.
It was clear that the ALLIES and FRIENDS of Banner were also not going all out from the beginning.
Do you DENY this fact, Gammite?!!!
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
It was clear that the ALLIES and FRIENDS of Banner were also not going all out from the beginning.[b]Do you DENY this fact, Gammite?!!!
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You mean the Warbound that decimated the other Earth heroes? If tht is the case you may be correct... After all, it didn't take them much effort to pound the mess out of them.
No matter how, or who attempts to twist it, the Hulk held back drastically the entire time. If Captain Marvel took a hit from the Immortal Hercules at just over 133 times the power he is normally at during base level, you might as well say adios amigo, to the big red cheese, because he'd be done. The Hulk took the hit to his intestines, and while in a relatively calm state no less.
Superman always holds back, so no matter how you spin it, Superman is only Captain Marvel's equal when he drastically holds back, because when he goes for broke Captain Marvel gets the scrub treatment. In other words, Superman doesn't belong in this discussion.
Originally posted by StoicSuperman is equal to Marvel only when he drastically holds back??? Who told you that? Battle Zone time.
You mean the Warbound that decimated the other Earth heroes? If tht is the case you may be correct... After all, it didn't take them much effort to pound the mess out of them.No matter how, or who attempts to twist it, the Hulk held back drastically the entire time. If Captain Marvel took a hit from the Immortal Hercules at just over 133 times the power he is normally at during base level, you might as well say adios amigo, to the big red cheese, because he'd be done. The Hulk took the hit to his intestines, and while in a relatively calm state no less.
Superman always holds back, so no matter how you spin it, Superman is only Captain Marvel's equal when he drastically holds back, because when he goes for broke Captain Marvel gets the scrub treatment. In other words, Superman doesn't belong in this discussion.
Originally posted by JBL
Superman is equal to Marvel only when he drastically holds back??? Who told you that? Battle Zone time.
He is. Superman is DC's flagship character. Marvel will never get the props that Big Blue gets. This isn't even something that we need to argue over. If Captain Marvel could have taken on Doomsday, it would have been DOCM and not DOS. That's just one example. Superman even states that he mentally suppresses a lot of his might because of the possibility of killing others.
Why not make a Doomsday vs Captain Marvel thread. Or make a Doomsday vs Black Adam thread and see how well they do?