Gladiator vs Konvikt

Originally posted by TheHulkster
I never said you can't.

Can Konvikt duplicate the contrived methods? Will he have a nuclear power plant handy with just the right radiation type? Feel free to ask if Gladiator can duplicate whatever Diana does that is contrived.

And please tell me why Konvikt would even be able to see or react to a superspeed Gladiator? Folks here love to use that for Superman while declaring that we argue based on characters using their powers fully and intelligently. Why the double standard?

He could only ko a dying Thanos who had just made himself exhausted and weaker from exerting himself fighting his allies.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
I never said you can't.

And please tell me why Konvikt would even be able to see or react to a superspeed Gladiator? Folks here love to use that for Superman while declaring that we argue based on characters using their powers fully and intelligently. Why the double standard?

He already outreacted a speedster.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Gladiator was physically struggling with Black Bolt and had to call for help.

He could only ko a dying Thanos who had just made himself exhausted and weaker from exerting himself fighting his allies.

And this is why context was mentioned and quite misrepresenting. The blackbolt fight is a set from the start with the method of victory having been planned that way to take him out early. You stated it as something Glads has to resort to unplanned due to distress. One cannot conclude Glad's effort due to a planned set-up. And BB has gone toe to toe with Hulk.

No one is disputing Thanos. A restored Thanos is about to take on The Phoenix. He is waaayyyy beyond Konvikt.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
He already outreacted a speedster.

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Cannonball shouldn't have been able to hit him. Gladiator is weak sauce.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
He already outreacted a speedster.

That can be said about every character who has hit Superman and of Boomerang,Cold. etc. with regard to Flash.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That can be said about every character who has hit Superman and of Boomerang,Cold. etc. with regard to Flash.

So youre using highest showings ever?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
ppl keep saying Konvikt loses, yet no one actually says how or what feats Gladiator has to win...how strange.

Let's consider Gladiator's track record against opponents of similar strength.

During War of Kings, Gladiator tussled with Black Bolt for a near dead split. Black Bolt has strength, but he isn't the pinnacle of physical strength, yet there he was presenting Gladiator with a physical challenge.

Thanos physically mauled BB in ways that Gladiator would only dream of being able to match.

Annihihulk ripped through him like no ones business.

If Konvikt can deck Superman, he could probably (80% chance) be able to deck Gladiator as well if we based it on his past's ability to weather assaults from greater threats. Threats that Superman, Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Hal etc have faced and defeated. Kallark does not have as good of a resume for whatever reason, but there it is all the same. Why should he do any better against Konvikt?

Originally posted by Stoic
Let's consider Gladiator's track record against opponents of similar strength.

During War of Kings, Gladiator tussled with Black Bolt for a near dead split. Black Bolt has strength, but he isn't the pinnacle of physical strength, yet there he was presenting Gladiator with a physical challenge.

Thanos physically mauled BB in ways that Gladiator would only dream of being able to match.

Annihihulk ripped through him like no ones business.

If Konvikt can deck Superman, he could probably (80% chance) be able to deck Gladiator as well if we based it on his past's ability to weather assaults from greater threats. Threats that Superman, Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Hal etc have faced and defeated. Kallark does not have as good of a resume for whatever reason, but there it is all the same. Why should he do any better against Konvikt?

War of Kings, Black Bolt got knocked out with a single hit from Gladiator.

Black Bolt was weakened after his scream against Thanos. His power went into the bomb. This was confirmed on panel on multiples of occasions.

Annihilus was trans tier.

Here Black Bolt was hit with noise cancel power...

He was then koed.

Originally posted by carver9
War of Kings, Black Bolt got knocked out with a single hit from Gladiator.

Black Bolt was weakened after his scream against Thanos. His power went into the bomb. This was confirmed on panel on multiples of occasions.

Annihilus was trans tier.

Do you believe that Gladiator would be as much trouble for the JL to take down, in comparison to the trouble that Konvikt gave them? Be honest with yourself, look into the light.

Originally posted by Stoic
Do you believe that Gladiator would be as much trouble for the JL to take down, in comparison to the trouble that Konvikt gave them? Be honest with yourself, look into the light.

If they fought Gladiator the way they fought Konvikt, yes. In the same comic, Wonder Woman was able to fight him 1 on 1 while only being able to use one of her arms. Gladiator should be ok.

Gladiator had help against Black Bolt. Before the double team, Black Bolt was right there with him.

How does any of that prove that Gladiator could take on a guy that had adaptive armor plating among other adaptations that he used?

Gladiator was in a death match against Black Dwarf. BD was a real threat to Gladiator. Superman and Wonder Woman would beat the brakes off of Gladiator in a forum match alone, then add in the rest of the JL. They fought Konvikt under plot. We are talking about a forum match. How did the JL take Konvikt down again? Does Gladiator have any time at all in this match to find out how to beat him?

Carver; Superman, Hulk, Hal, Thor, Surfer, Wonder Woman, Jane Thor... etc, have all beaten trans tiers or above, or given them more resistance than the resistance that Gladiator presented to Annihihulk. I had a huge chuckle when I saw it. To be honest, Wonder Woman would probably beat the shit out of Gladiator with two broken arms. I'm not trying to be cruel, but Gladiator seems to lead with his chin a lot.

Originally posted by carver9
If they fought Gladiator the way they fought Konvikt, yes. In the same comic, Wonder Woman was able to fight him 1 on 1 while only being able to use one of her arms. Gladiator should be ok.

She used both arms guy

Gladiator is too skilled and far more aggressive than Superman. He whoops him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gladiator is too skilled and far more aggressive than Superman. He whoops him.

How did the JL finally end up beating Konvikt? Superman went in on Konvikt. No reason to believe that Mr. Confidence does better, and as soon as Konvikt hits him a couple times, Gladiator would deflate and take another arse whipping.

Originally posted by Stoic
How did the JL finally end up beating Konvikt? Superman went in on Konvikt. No reason to believe that Mr. Confidence does better, and as soon as Konvikt hits him a couple times, Gladiator would deflate and take another arse whipping.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Entirely different situation and Superman isn't the same guy with the same aggression. Nah, based off his showings he handles this dumb brute. Konvikt chomped Superman not Gladiator.

You avoided the question though, which means that you're hiding something. This weakens your stance considerably. Gladiator nearly always gets his ticket punched when he is unable to put the guy down in one flurried assault. He begins questioning himself. Look at what Annihihulk did to him. He presented zero resistance to the butt rape. Zero.

He beat him so bad, that he could have literally ripped his clothes off and left out there butt naked and bleeding for his buddies to come and collect.

Originally posted by Stoic
You avoided the question though, which means that you're hiding something. This weakens your stance considerably. Gladiator nearly always gets his ticket punched when he is unable to put the guy down in one flurried assault. He begins questioning himself. Look at what Annihihulk did to him. He presented zero resistance to the butt rape. Zero.

He beat him so bad, that he could have literally ripped his clothes off and left out there butt naked and bleeding for his buddies to come and collect.

Gladiator wins. Try to make relevant points.