Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I didn't. You made a false comparison which weakens your case. I corrected you. Annihulk is superior to Konvikt.Gladiator wins. Try to make relevant points.
The Savage Hulk resisted Annihihulk just fine. Gladiator just got ripped apart.
You still didn't answer the question. You're firing with duds. How did the JL finally manage to beat Konvikt?
Originally posted by StoicHulk would beat Konvikt as well. Annihulk also beats Konvikt IMO.
The Savage Hulk resisted Annihihulk just fine. Gladiator just got ripped apart.You still didn't answer the question. You're firing with duds. How did the JL finally manage to beat Konvikt?
Beating his ass. Just the same thing as Gladiator is going to do. He isn't invulnerable to Gladiator strength nor did he display superior skill. You don't know how to make a relevant point. 😂
The only impression that I get from your points is that you refuse to acknowledge the JL as a very powerful and capable team. This is why your opinion on the matter should be taken with a grain of salt. Either be more objective, or this argument becomes a pointless circular debate.
Konvikt is easily on Savage Hulk's level in terms of threat level. Unless the JL were playing with him. You still didn't answer the question though.
Originally posted by StoicWhen did I say they weren't ?
The only impression that I get from your points is that you refuse to acknowledge the JL as a very powerful and capable team. This is why your opinion on the matter should be taken with a grain of salt. Either be more objective, or this argument becomes a pointless circular debate.Konvikt is easily on Savage Hulk's level in terms of threat level. Unless the JL were playing with him. You still didn't answer the question though.
I disagree. Hulk has been a team level threat for years not just one run, the same goes for Gladiator. This fight comes down to how these two match up. Gladiator has the speed, skill, and experience edge. This is why he wins, mr. Irrelevant.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say they weren't ?I disagree. Hulk has been a team level threat for years not just one run, the same goes for Gladiator. This fight comes down to how these two match up. Gladiator has the speed, skill, and experience edge. This is why he wins, mr. Irrelevant.
This is ABSOLUTELY LAUGHABLE!!!
What group of Combatants has Kallark taken on that come CLOSE to the lineup Konvikt faced?
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say they weren't ?I disagree. Hulk has been a team level threat for years not just one run, the same goes for Gladiator. This fight comes down to how these two match up. Gladiator has the speed, skill, and experience edge. This is why he wins, mr. Irrelevant.
You just can't keep up is all that is bruh. It was all very relevant to my case and stance on the matter. Gladiator can push the Things head into the street, but the moment that he runs into someone that can take it, he becomes a deer caught in the headlights. Even an alternate version of him did this. Look at his fight against a dying Hulk. I'm sorry but I don't know what Gladiator you're talking about, the one that I've read tends to gloat a lot during combat, like when he ran into Masterson. He lost that fight due to his over-inflated ego.
Who can you bring up of note that Gladiator straight up dominated?
He can push Colossus, Thing, Sasquatch, Doc Samson, Wonder Man, etc around, not so much against guys like Pagan, Savage Hulk, Black Dwarf.
You can't really discount Konvikt's performance against the JL just because of it being one showing. He was shown to be extremely powerful, and damage resistant. Damage resistance has always been Gladiator's Achilles heal. Don't even try to make Gladiator out to be some kind of battlefield master okay. His incompetence is what caused Masterson to beat the crap out of him. You can't even really deny that fact. Glads is a poor soldier with awesome tools.
Originally posted by TheHulksterThe first part of your post is just a massive excuse. The context was physically BB was starring to be too much for him.
And this is why context was mentioned and quite misrepresenting. The blackbolt fight is a set from the start with the method of victory having been planned that way to take him out early. You stated it as something Glads has to resort to unplanned due to distress. One cannot conclude Glad's effort due to a planned set-up. And BB has gone toe to toe with Hulk.No one is disputing Thanos. A restored Thanos is about to take on The Phoenix. He is waaayyyy beyond Konvikt.
A restored Thanos is completely irrelevant to my point.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
I never said you can't.Can Konvikt duplicate the contrived methods?
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My initial post was a reply to Carver,as you can see, where he brings WW fighting Konvikt (not beating) up as a reason for Glads winning (and subsequently does again).
Is every single one of Glads losses contrived? And every win he has over superior beings (when HE becomes a hero, against Skyfathers etc) not contrived?
Originally posted by StoicYou aren't a very effective debater. At no point did I say he dominates Konvikt into the dirt. I said he wins though because of the advantages I already listed. He showed he had the ability to take on the Hulk. He used weakness exploitation making that completely irrelevant against Konvikt here since the radiation isn't in this thread. Keep disqualifying your showings.
You just can't keep up is all that is bruh. It was all very relevant to my case and stance on the matter. Gladiator can push the Things head into the street, but the moment that he runs into someone that can take it, he becomes a deer caught in the headlights. Even an alternate version of him did this. Look at his fight against a dying Hulk. I'm sorry but I don't know what Gladiator you're talking about, the one that I've read tends to gloat a lot during combat, like when he ran into Masterson. He lost that fight due to his over-inflated ego.Who can you bring up of note that Gladiator straight up dominated?
He can push Colossus, Thing, Sasquatch, Doc Samson, Wonder Man, etc around, not so much against guys like Pagan, Savage Hulk, Black Dwarf.
You can't really discount Konvikt's performance against the JL just because of it being one showing. He was shown to be extremely powerful, and damage resistant. Damage resistance has always been Gladiator's Achilles heal. Don't even try to make Gladiator out to be some kind of battlefield master okay. His incompetence is what caused Masterson to beat the crap out of him. You can't even really deny that fact. Glads is a poor soldier with awesome tools.
He dominated masterson Thor. Thor ended up prevailing but he clearly worked him over. Oberyn dominated the Mountain on GoT but ended up being killed due to arrogance and stopping when he had his opponent at his mercy. Same thing, kid. I wish you had the intelligence to be able to process what your reading or to make sensible points but alas here we are.
Both are extremely damage resistant and powerful. False, both aren't completely invulnerable but gladiator still has more advantages hence why he wins, sport. Now take your humble pie and shove off, nerd.
Originally posted by cdtmThat was Thanos but he was extremely weakened and dying from a so called God cancer mistress death had infected him with. Thanos had just fought off the Shiar imperial guard in that state before Gladiator took advantage of his weakened state.
Was that Thanos??Did he get back up? And when did it happen?