Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am very well aware of the rules. The rule is clear. Screenfeats only in tue given case where there is CONTRADICTORY information in the books/comics, which isnt the case here.MCU CLEARLY has stated in ANY of their movies that Vabranium is stronger! MCU is Marvel! And Marvel states that Adamantium is stronger. If you cant grt that in your head, then you cant get anything!
Lol! If the scientist seen on screen says that the metal is UNDESTRUCTIBLE then it it. That is a screen feat! Adamantium is virtually Undestructible according to Striker! Period there.
Stark howevrr said Vibranium is stronger than common steel! He nevrr said it was Undestructible!
Ive given you evidence! Youve given me nothing but your misinformed opinion and tampered rules to limit my information.
Your points are weak.
Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium. Go do some research okay.
No, you clearly aren't. Because they have been pointed out to you by several posters who have been here a lot longer than you, and have had this same conversations with multiple other posters before you ever came along. I mean are you actually so arrogant as to presume that in all the years that KMC MvF has been around, no one else has questioned the rules for clarification? People are telling you how things are, because they have already been told themselves in the past before. Except most people have the good graces to accept the rules. You are just continuing to take a giant shit on them.
And I see you also do not understand the difference between screen feats and character statements. A screen feat is like Captain America curling a helicopter. You can actually see it and quantify it (or at least try to). Character statements on their own mean nothing, as characters are not omniscient or all-knowing. Just like feats that don't happen onscreen. See the Superman tectonic plate feat I already mentioned before.
And wow, just wow. I tell you to ask Impediment for yourself if you don't believe me. And instead of actually doing that, you try and accuse me of rule tampering when all I am doing is explaining things to you. Seriously, I was trying to be relatively civil up until this point. But go f*** yourself if that is going to be your attitude.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
People must be bored out of their right minds today... Holy shit!
Yeah, I am done. I tried to be reasonable and patient, and explain to him how the rules (which have been in place since long before he ever showed his face) work. I even told him to PM Imp himself if he didn't trust any of us with the truth. But instead, he throws false accusations at me, and continues to ignore everything people tell him.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
No, you clearly aren't. Because they have been pointed out to you by several posters who have been here a lot longer than you, and have had this same conversations with multiple other posters before you ever came along. I mean are you actually so arrogant as to presume that in all the years that KMC MvF has been around, no one else has questioned the rules for clarification? People are telling you how things are, because they have already been told themselves in the past before. Except most people have the good graces to accept the rules. You are just continuing to take a giant shit on them.And I see you also do not understand the difference between screen feats and character statements. A screen feat is like Captain America curling a helicopter. You can actually see it and quantify it (or at least try to). Character statements on their own mean nothing, as characters are not omniscient or all-knowing. Just like feats that don't happen onscreen. See the Superman tectonic plate feat I already mentioned before.
And wow, just wow. I tell you to ask Impediment for yourself if you don't believe me. And instead of actually doing that, you try and accuse me of rule tampering when all I am doing is explaining things to you. Seriously, I was trying to be relatively civil up until this point. But go f*** yourself if that is going to be your attitude.
Hey. Safe yourself the bother of writing. Cause this isnt EVEN DEBATABLE!
Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium whether you like it or not!
Ive given you film statements and evidence! Youve given me bullshit and modified rules!
You failed to prove your point! You know why!? Because MCU has never said vibranium to be stronger. Why? Cause if they do they are going against their own comics!
So stop your folly. If you want to debate BRING ME EVIDENCE! WHICH you havent
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hey. Safe yourself the bother of writing. Cause this isnt EVEN DEBATABLE!Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium whether you like it or not!
Ive given you film statements and evidence! Youve given me bullshit and modified rules!
You failed to prove your point! You know why!? Because MCU has never said vibranium to be stronger. Why? Cause if they do they are going against their own comics!
[B]So stop your folly. If you want to debate BRING ME EVIDENCE! WHICH you havent
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Okay. You are literally a waste of time. Sorry, no other way to say it. No rules have been tampered with or modified. They have just been repeatedly clarified, because you are incapable of grasping them.
Again, character statements themselves do not constitute proper evidence. They need to be supported by actual feats. Again, ask Impediment himself.
Again, I never said one is more durable than the other. I said you need to use actual screen feats to show it either way. So, you continuously insisting that I am stating one is more durable than the other is a gross misrepresentation of my argument and a blatant fabrication on your part.
At this point, I genuinely don't know whether you are just that thick, or are intentionally being obtuse. The issue is not whether you believe adamantium is stronger. It is how you are presenting your argument. But either way, I can see that continuing to engage you is little better than banging my head against a wall. So, have fun with the other people who are still willing to humour you while you can. Because they are going to run out after a while.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Okay. You are literally a waste of time. Sorry, no other way to say it. No rules have been tampered with or modified. They have just been repeatedly clarified, because you are incapable of grasping them.Again, character statements themselves do not constitute proper evidence. They need to be supported by actual feats. Again, ask Impediment himself.
Again, I never said one is more durable than the other. I said you need to use actual screen feats to show it either way. So, you continuously insisting that I am stating one is more durable than the other is a gross misrepresentation of my argument and a blatant fabrication on your part.
At this point, I genuinely don't know whether you are just that thick, or are intentionally being obtuse. The issue is not whether you believe adamantium is stronger. It is how you are presenting your argument. But either way, I can see that continuing to engage you is little better than banging my head against a wall. So, have fun with the other people who are still willing to humour you while you can. Because they are going to run out after a while.
You are incapable of understanding them my friend! Not gonna keep arguing something that you CLEARLY dont understand.
LOL! Are you even hearing yourself!?
The person who crafted captain america's shield is giving the properties of the metal he used, and you say that is invalid!????? Lol.
Hey people guess what! The renown scientist Howard Stark's words mean nothing! Bahahahaha.
The only time a characters words mean nothing in a film is when there is contradiction between the statements and the feats. Which clearly isnt the case here.
If you cant take Howards Stark words for evidence then you cant take nothing my friend.
This is for all of you who are intellectual and reasonable.
Adamantium:
Classified as the strongest metal in marvel.
http://es.marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Adamantium
William Stryker himself described the metal in X Men Origins Wolverine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M8LoVgPxuQ
Described by Stryker as Virtually Undestructible (just like in the comics).
Some may ask why then did Wolverine's claws got cut off?
Well because Silver Samurai used an Adamantium Super Hot Sword that "melted" Wolvs claws.
Basically, only Adamantium can cut Adamantium.
A similar case would be with Diamonds in our world. No other material can cut Diamonds but diamonds (lassers could but lasser isnt a material)
So, Adamantium is nearly Undestructible, for only some exceptions.
Vibranium:
Vibranium is very good for defence. Since it can absorb energy and isolate the user.
In Cap vs Thor scene, Vibranium prevented the energy released by Mjolnir to harm Cap. In that case, the kinetic energy would have traveled through any other metal and broke Caps arms. Furthermore, the electricity released upon impact would have shocked Cap.
Vibranium is a good isolator:
http://es.marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Vibranium
In the MCU, Howard Stark which created Caps shield describes Vibranium:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m7IP2B6JnM
As mentioned, Vibranium is a very strong metal. Atleast than steel and other common metals.
Uru metal:
A very strong metal. Its durability can be enhanced with magic.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Uru
Sadly we dont get a film description therefore i cant bring you film evidence...
CONCLUSION:
Adamantium: Strongest Metal in Marvel, however it doesnt Absorb Energy nor can be enchanted.
Vibranium: Energy absorbant and very durable. However it doesnt support magic.
Uru: Can be enchanted and is very durable. However it cant absorb energy.
Hope this can clarify your doubts about the durability and strength of the various metals. 😉
Originally posted by SableEven though I completly disagree with Josh on his usage of comic facts in MvS threads, I thought it would only be fair to point out that in your post critiquing his spelling, punctuation etc.. "your" should have an s at the end of it, I'm pretty sure gramar is spelled with 2 m's not 1, and you've been spelling adamantium as adamentium this whole thread.
Spelling, punctuation and gramar say a lot about a person. Your is atrocious.
Originally posted by Raptor22
Even though I completly disagree with Josh on his usage of comic facts in MvS threads, I thought it would only be fair to point out that in your post critiquing his spelling, punctuation etc.. "your" should have an s at the end of it, I'm pretty sure gramar is spelled with 2 m's not 1, and you've been spelling adamantium as adamentium this whole thread.
The mVS Golden rule isnt clear. Which clearly makes room for misinterpretation
Originally posted by Raptor22
Even though I completly disagree with Josh on his usage of comic facts in MvS threads, I thought it would only be fair to point out that in your post critiquing his spelling, punctuation etc.. "your" should have an s at the end of it, I'm pretty sure gramar is spelled with 2 m's not 1, and you've been spelling adamantium as adamentium this whole thread.
Then its fair me to point out that yes, I accidentally forgot to put an "s" on your. My fcking bad. Its equally important for me to point out you haven't even posted in this thread until now, but you felt the need to point out my mistake while ignoring his the entire time. So go **** yourself👆