Originally posted by Adam_PoEIt wasn't so much about the Haitian government as it was about local organizations. The relief funding would've been a nice stimulus to the suffering Haitian economy if Haitians were hired to fix their own country instead of expensive Americans. So, I guess for once I agree with Surt???
To be fair, the Haitian government is corrupt. I would not pay Haiti to fix Haiti either. I would much rather pay Americans to do it. Then there is at least some level of transparency and accountability for the donations.
Originally posted by FlyattractorI announced my perma banning prior to it occurring when I went in for the kill arguing for Prime against Gladiator. The site was ridiculous and ended up eating itself. My only perma was premeditated because the site restricted dissenting opinions. Cbr died, old man.
[b]You can pretty much smell Quanny's CBRPermaBanning from here!!!! [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
I announced my perma banning prior to it occurring when I went in for the kill arguing for Prime against Gladiator. The site was ridiculous and ended up eating itself. My only perma was premeditated because the site restricted dissenting opinions. Cbr died, old man.
Went out better then I did.
Near as I could tell, I was banned because Pendaran didn't like me and flagged every post he could. Actually argued lapses of memory as "lies", and the mods just went with it.
Originally posted by Firefly218
It wasn't so much about the Haitian government as it was about local organizations. The relief funding would've been a nice stimulus to the suffering Haitian economy if Haitians were hired to fix their own country instead of expensive Americans. So, I guess for once I agree with Surt???
The thing is, I don't care how corrupt the government there is lol. If they were so corrupt they shouldn't have said they were raising funds for them. It is as simple as that.
There is no actual excuse here, no rationale that makes this okay. It's sinister as f*ck. It makes *them* corrupt, you understand that, right?
Originally posted by SurturBro when disaster strikes, funds are not raised for a government. When Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, we didn't raise funds for the US government lol.
The thing is, I don't care how corrupt the government there is lol. If they were so corrupt they shouldn't have said they were raising funds for them. It is as simple as that.There is no actual excuse here, no rationale that makes this okay. It's sinister as f*ck. It makes *them* corrupt, you understand that, right?
The funds were for the reparation of Haiti, not for Haiti's government. The criticism is that most of the money went towards American labor and American organizations instead of local Haitian organizations. And sure, I agree with you on that.
You seem to twist every piece of information that enters your mind into something that supports your world view...
Originally posted by Firefly218
Bro when disaster strikes, funds are not raised for a government. When Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, we didn't raise funds for the US government lol.The funds were for the reparation of Haiti, not for Haiti's government. The criticism is that most of the money went towards American labor and American organizations instead of local Haitian organizations. And sure, I agree with you on that.
You seem to twist every piece of information that enters your mind into something that supports your world view...
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Originally posted by Firefly218
Bro when disaster strikes, funds are not raised for a government. When Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, we didn't raise funds for the US government lol.The funds were for the reparation of Haiti, not for Haiti's government. The criticism is that most of the money went towards American labor and American organizations instead of local Haitian organizations. And sure, I agree with you on that.
You seem to twist every piece of information that enters your mind into something that supports your world view...
To bad most of the money given to places like Haiti and even Puerto Rico will be stolen by their corrupt governments instead of actually going to help the people.
But that is how Leftist Governments Work.
Originally posted by cdtmI would,love to lure that coward onto this site. He wouldn't last a month without his protection and mod protected nonsense.
Went out better then I did.Near as I could tell, I was banned because Pendaran didn't like me and flagged every post he could. Actually argued lapses of memory as "lies", and the mods just went with it.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Bro when disaster strikes, funds are not raised for a government. When Hurricane Harvey hit Texas, we didn't raise funds for the US government lol.The funds were for the reparation of Haiti, not for Haiti's government. The criticism is that most of the money went towards American labor and American organizations instead of local Haitian organizations. And sure, I agree with you on that.
You seem to twist every piece of information that enters your mind into something that supports your world view...
Lol dude, stop with this dumb bullshit. You know exactly what I mean. If they didn't want to give money to Haiti they shouldn't have said so. I don't care if it was the government of Haiti or other organizations, it doesn't matter. Oh and if it wasn't going to the government their corruption is irrelevant, shouldn't have even been mentioned.
But hey, I'll make it 100% crystal clear so there can be no whining: Do not say you are giving money to Haiti(TO ANYONE IN HAITI) and then...take most of the money and not put it towards Haiti. That is corruption, plain and simple. Did you have anything else to add to that?
Originally posted by SurturAll of the money from the relief fund was used towards Haiti. The committee didn't spend the money on ice cream cones, it was all spent on Haiti. You are very fundamentally misunderstanding the critique against Hillary Clinton. It's not that the money wasn't used on Haiti, because it was. The problem is the WAY in which it was used on Haiti. The spending on Haiti was constructed in such a way that would benefit America, but be inefficient and expensive for Haiti.
Lol dude, stop with this dumb bullshit. You know exactly what I mean. If they didn't want to give money to Haiti they shouldn't have said so. I don't care if it was the government of Haiti or other organizations, it doesn't matter.It's corruption. Stop purposely misunderstanding shit and then whining about twisting it. You know damn well what I meant: don't say you're giving it to Haiti if you are not.
And if you didn't know I more or less just meant "don't say it's going to Haiti if it's not" there is a problem.
But hey, I'll make it 100% crystal clear so there can be no whining: Do not say you are giving money to Haiti(TO ANYONE IN HAITI) and then...take most of the money and not put it towards Haiti. That is corruption, plain and simple. Did you have anything else to add to that?
So now that we've cleared up that misunderstanding hopefully, yes I agree with you. This is a kind of corruption. It seems Hillary didn't have the Haitians best interest at heart and instead was trying to score political points in America.
That said, it's still ridiculous to equivocate Hillary Clinton with Trump - which I think is what you're constantly trying to do.
Many politicians have behaved in similar ways and done similar if not worse things.
Almost every Republican in congress voted against Hurricane Sandy relief, yet none of their reputations are damaged. Just last week 69 republicans voted against FEMA relief for Puerto Rico, which has no power and a severe shortage of clean water right now.
At least Clinton actually helped Haiti, those Republicans voted to block any help whatsoever... Just because politically the devestation in Puerto Rico doesn't effect them in their home state???
As far as politicians go Hillary Clinton is benign. Meanwhile Trump is a GOP cancer.
Originally posted by SurturOh come on man, do you really not care about any of what I just mentioned? If you look at the Haiti situation in context, Hillary Clinton still helped the country. Independently, she raised a couple million for them too. Even if the spending of the money was America-centric.
Good, you agree it's corruption 👆And no, she's just as bad as Trump. Anything else?
Meanwhile, we have other politicians straight-up blocking disaster aid for political gain. How can you be so angry at 1 ambitious woman and not angry at 100 ambitious men?
Originally posted by Firefly218
Oh come on man, do you really not care about any of what I just mentioned? If you look at the Haiti situation in context, Hillary Clinton still helped the country. Independently, she raised a couple million for them too. Even if the spending of the money was America-centric.Meanwhile, we have other politicians straight-up blocking disaster aid for political gain. How can you be so angry at 1 ambitious woman and not angry at 100 ambitious men?
Dude, this is why I do not take you seriously and it's why anyone "bingo'ing" you should be embarrassed. You are going to talk to me about context? When you brought up Trump buying a 20k painting without giving any. When you brought up his buying a bronco helmet for a lot you didn't give any context.
And yep, she's corrupt as hell. I could have sworn you and I have talked before and you have asked me how she is corrupt, as if you didn't think she was. But you clearly knew she was.
Originally posted by SurturHillary is corrupt like any other politician is corrupt, there is NOTHING special or unique at all. Name any of her transgressions and I can name 10 other republicans and democrats who did the same thing and nobody cared.
Dude, this is why I do not take you seriously and it's why anyone "bingo'ing" you should be embarrassed. You are going to talk to me about context? When you brought up Trump buying a 20k painting without giving any. When you brought up his buying a bronco helmet for a lot you didn't give any context.And yep, she's corrupt as hell. I could have sworn you and I have talked before and you have asked me how she is corrupt, as if you didn't think she was. But you clearly knew she was.
And about context, the painting and bronco helmet did indeed have context I didn't bring up and that was a mistake. If the painting and Bronco helmet were the only things wrong with Trump I wouldn't be so mad, that's something I can get over. Unfortunately, there is WAY too much stacked-up evidence that for the last 5 decades Trump has been an ego-driven, narcissistic, opportunistic corrupt goon with no desire to help people other than himself. I repeat, there is NO equivocation between Hillary Clinton and Trump.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Hillary is corrupt like any other politician is corrupt, there is NOTHING special or unique at all. Name any of her transgressions and I can name 10 other republicans and democrats who did the same thing and nobody cared.And about context, the painting and bronco helmet did indeed have context I didn't bring up and that was a mistake. If the painting and Bronco helmet were the only things wrong with Trump I wouldn't be so mad, that's something I can get over. Unfortunately, there is WAY too much stacked-up evidence that for the last 5 decades Trump has been an ego-driven, narcissistic, opportunistic corrupt goon with no desire to help people other than himself. I repeat, there is NO equivocation between Hillary Clinton and Trump.
Lol but dude, if you're mad over the legal thing bring up the legal thing. Don't bring up other things without context.
And this is just retarded as hell. You are not to be taken seriously if you do not think Hilary is ego driven and a narcissist and all that. This b*tch wrote a god damn book called "What Happened", whining about the election. No, THERE IS equivocation. I'm sorry that bugs you, but it's true.
So no, there will be no "Hilary is better" because she isn't. She is just a different type of piece of shit. Because dipshit leftists could not see this they rallied behind her and lost. Good job, continue the ignorance that already put Trump into office.