Originally posted by Rebel95
So to show that Maul has growth, Filoni had him get three shotted by Obi Wan?
Originally posted by Rebel95
Your hypocrisy and ability to ignore common sense does [/B]
Maul danced away from one blow, then reversed his movement to avoid another, and then there were too many to count, and then there were even more than that.
Starwars.com also states Sidious "toyed with Maul, ultimately deciding not ot kill his former apprentince" and per Feloni he's "enjoying himself as he does it".
Maul never went "toe to toe" with Sidious, he got clowned. Maul doesn't get any favorable comparison to Sidious.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Basic critical thinking would get you to realize that the three-shotting wasn't a result of a massive gap between the combatants. Hence why Ahsoka can't just stomp maul despite being able to contend with Vader.
I'm sure it does, now do you have an actual argument?
Rather, it is a result of their character's growth. How can you not understand that?
Kbro: that quote from the website doesn't preclude the idea Sidious was toying with Maul when he literally began throwing him around and shocking him with lightning while laughing. Prove its referring to the lightsaber portion as well. Also your quote from Shadow Collective is non-Canon. You'll need a better source proving the final portion of the fight isn't an all out expression of both their lightsaber capabilities.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Nope.
What do you mean “nope”. My quote is from his history on the same site. And if you align them together, it’s clear what it means. I know you like to pick and choose sources, but putting quotes together, especially from the same source, is a thing.
Also very interesting both quotes only talk about “toying” or “joyfully torturing” After Savage has been killed.
It’s almost as if it’s describing the scene we saw, ergo the Tk’ing and Lightning which was actual toying we saw.
Originally posted by Rebel95
Nor is it a result of them growing as swordsmen. Otherwise, wouldn't Filoni have made Ahsoka's and Vader's fight short? Because they both grew as swordsmen too!Rather, it is a result of their character's growth. How can you not understand that?
Exactly.
This is the point he just won’t get.
Originally posted by Rebel95
Nor is it a result of them growing as swordsmen. Otherwise, wouldn't Filoni have made Ahsoka's and Vader's fight short?
Because they both grew as swordsmen too!
Originally posted by Rebel95
Rather, it is a result of their character's growth. How can you not understand that? [/B]
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Kbro: that quote from the website doesn't preclude the idea Sidious was toying with Maul when he literally began throwing him around and shocking him with lightning while laughing. Prove its referring to the lightsaber portion as well. Also your quote from Shadow Collective is non-Canon. You'll need a better source proving the final portion of the fight isn't an all out expression of both their lightsaber capabilities.
Also, why shouldn't I just apply your logic and take the holistic intent of a non canonical source?
Lmfao, what? We visually see where Sidious toys with Maul - when he literally toys him around. The people writing that aren't inventing new Canon, they're watching what we're watching and summarizing it. There's no indication within the actual fight itself that Sidious was toying with Maul - we even see him snarling at certain points. Thus, the claim that Sidious was toying with Maul during the fight doesn't follow logically, so you'd need confirmation on your behalf that it's referring to the entire fight. It seems you can't even do that now, though. The biography seems to have been removed from Darth Maul's page (http://www.starwars.com/databank/darth-maul), so it seems it's Canon relevance is... zero. Oops.
I have no clue what you're referring to with the second point.