POLL - Darth Maul: TPM vs Rebels

Vote in the poll and comment who wins.

Rebels Maul is in the range of a force user who several years pre-rebels was pulling ships out of the sky that were significantly larger than the ship TCW Maul dragged a few feet. The less powerful TPM Maul gets clowned with the force.

Sabers wise, the evidence for maul having degraded as of TCW, where's he's authoritatively more impressive than TPM Maul both physically and in terms of skill, would be:

Not that this is necessarily indication of degradation, but TPM Maul's said to be a more skilled duelist than Dooku.

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The list from AEYNTK.

Why is canon making itself out to be even dumber than Legends lol

Originally posted by slayne
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https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-6011277

There’s TPM Maul who still had his full Force potential, was in his physical prime, and constantly training under Sidious.

Then there’s Rebels Maul whose been in hiding for decades with no master or apprentice, whose broken and stuck in the past.

Hmmm...

Potential is relevant how?

And that Maul was in his physical prime is an assumption yea, force augmentation is a thing, and the more powerful a force user, the more powerful is his augmentation.

Rebels Maul colelcted artifacts, looked for holocrons, and was troubling the empire during his decade. And yea, he was a broken character stuck in his TPM past, which again regards Emotional growth, not combative growth.

So again, in terms of evidence regarding Maul's combative abilities degrading, we have...

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Potential is relevant how?

LOL

Yeah 2 combatants with the same level of skill and training. Jeez I wonder what difference potential and mind set would make.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

And that Maul was in his physical prime is an assumption yea, force augmentation is a thing, and the more powerful a force user, the more powerful is his augmentation.

Yeah it’s just an assumption that Pre-Prime Pre-TPM Maul was grappling with Rathtars right...

Urrm.. You do realise TPM Maul can also augment his strength right? Because I must have missed the part where you proved Rebels Maul was more powerful in the Force than his TPM self.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

Rebels Maul colelcted artifacts, looked for holocrons, and was troubling the empire during his decade. And yea, he was a broken character stuck in his TPM past, which again regards Emotional growth, not combative growth.

Ooh he collected artefacts? Wow I didn’t realise collecting items made people more powerful.. My bad.

Yeah mind sets don’t effect use of the Force or combat ability right? AHEM Mustafar Anakin AHEM

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

So again, in terms of evidence regarding Maul's combative abilities degrading, we have...

Yeah that plus there’s really no contest in terms of feats.

You on the other hand have presented absolutely nothing to back up Rebels Maul’s case.

LOL

Yeah 2 combatants with the same level of skill and training. Jeez I wonder what difference potential and mind set would make

I'll get to mindset later...

Yeah it’s just an assumption that Pre-Prime Pre-TPM Maul was grappling with Rathtars right...

Urrm.. You do realise TPM Maul can also augment his strength right? Because I must have missed the part where you proved Rebels Maul was more powerful in the Force than his TPM self.

Hence, unless you can prove Maul has degraded, Maul would get any feats earlier versions of Maul have.

And unsuprisngly, you completely ignored the argument I made earlier for Rebels Maul being more powerful. And yes, generally, gaining knowledge and mastery correlates with more powerful. Not to mention that aside from what someone reading what you've said what you think, Maul only spent a fraction of his time stranded on Malachor. He spent his time before that travelling the galaxy and looking for sh!t, troubling the empire to the point that he was considered a "shadow" and struck fear into all the inqusitors, and then after Malachor, was engaged in multiple fights, and was searching the galaxy.

So this notion that Maul was inactive is simply false.

So I'm at a loss for what you reasoning for Maul having degraded here is.

Ooh he collected artefacts? Wow I didn’t realise collecting items made people more powerful.. My bad.

Yeah mind sets don’t effect use of the Force or combat ability right? AHEM Mustafar Anakin AHEM

The opposite is true for Maul who's commitment to the darkside strengthened as both his hate and anger grew.

That this would make a darksider weaker is up to you to prove.

Yeah that plus there’s really no contest in terms of feats.

You on the other hand have presented absolutely nothing to back up Rebels Maul’s case.

There's also the matter of the Feloni quote. I'm sure you will adamantly repeat ad nausea how you've debunked it. Though, I'd advise you to set a higher bar for yourself. Trying to apply the context of a separate quote from a different person to Feloni's statement is a pretty weak rebuttal. 🙁

TPM Maul blitzes. Rebels Maul is a *****.

Originally posted by darthbane77
TPM Maul blitzes. Rebels Maul is a *****.

Damn, TPM Maul dominating the poll. You know the Rocky Brigade taking mad Ls if they can't even split vs TPM.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Damn, TPM Maul dominating the poll. You know the Rocky Brigade taking mad Ls if they can't even split vs TPM.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

Again, Maul is still the same character, so you need to prove there's a degradement for Maul to suddenly not to be capable of what versions of him who have had less time to grow are capable of.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Lol, that's not how it works buddy. It's uncertain whether or not Maul grew in power so he doesn't get his old feats unless it's proven that he hasn't declined.

Hence thor's original post which asserts Maul's pre-rebels feat mark him as more impressive is wholly dependent on the unproven assumption that Maul has declined.

I've already made a case for why I think maul is more powerful, however my response was to an assertion Thor made and hasn't bothered trying to fufill the burden of proof for

Originally posted by Rebel95
Or does ESB Yoda still get his feats from ROTS? 😂 [/B]

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not that this is necessarily indication of degradation, but TPM Maul's said to be a more skilled duelist than Dooku.

That has Asajj being > Savage and Vader being > Sidious, neither of which is true. It's more likely to be popularity based than anything else.

The author confirmed it's saber skill.

Originally posted by MythLord
[B]That has Asajj being > Savage