Civil War Iron Man takes an Iron Fist to the face...
- Tony is wearing the armour he wore at the end of the film, when fighting Cap and Bucky.
- Iron Fist gets a free shot, right to Tony's face, and is hitting with as much power as he can (so, ground-pound, floorbuster-level strike).
- Tony does not dodge or block. He is relying on his suit to protect him.
What happens? Is he KO'd? Killed? Is he fine but his helmet gets messed up?
It was actually some "Because Science" episodes that prompted this. Like this one, for example:
The only time I actually recall him being KO'd while in the suit was at the end of the Avengers, but it had lost power at that point. Even in Civil War, his helmet gets battered and bent and his face bloodied, but he was still perfectly conscious and coherent at the end of the fight. I might be forgetting a showing, but is there any instance where he gets KO'd inside his suit while it is still functional? Not saying Kyle Hill's theory is correct, but is interesting to consider.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
He explodes into meaty chunks or at least gets a hole in his face or chest
Why would it? Iron Man's armor has withstood greater forces with no real damage to the armor.
He battled Thor. Thor landed some serious blows with his hammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNvUrMA5ClM
A good punch from Iron Fist could damage the suit yes, but kill Iron Man. No.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
It was actually some "Because Science" episodes that prompted this. Like this one, for example:The only time I actually recall him being KO'd while in the suit was at the end of the Avengers, but it had lost power at that point. Even in Civil War, his helmet gets battered and bent and his face bloodied, but he was still perfectly conscious and coherent at the end of the fight. I might be forgetting a showing, but is there any instance where he gets KO'd inside his suit while it is still functional? Not saying Kyle Hill's theory is correct, but is interesting to consider.
Yep in IM 2 party fight's end, the suit can be visibly seen coming back online after the repulsors explosion
And for people who haven't seen the show Iron Fist (I know the early critic reviews made a lot of people decide to skip it), or might not remember all the feats totally clearly, this is the strike in question:
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Yep in IM 2 party fight's end, the suit can be visibly seen coming back online after the repulsors explosion
Yeah, but was he actually knocked out while the suit was still online? IIRC, the suit is shown being offline for a couple of seconds before the eye lenses light up again, but we don't see his face directly.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Improvement in what exactly? Tasers and restraints?
Every aspect.
General strenght, durability, fire power, mobility, etc.
The Mk XLVI is far superior to the Mk VII seen in Avangers 1.
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Man_Armor:_Mark_XLVI
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Man_Armor:_Mark_VII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXVzgHrJbCo
Iron Man Mk XLV (Which is inferior to XLVI) took direct hits from Ultron with no scratch.
Iron Fist could damage the suit i think, but breach it with one blow. No.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
And for people who haven't seen the show Iron Fist (I know the early critic reviews made a lot of people decide to skip it), or might not remember all the feats totally clearly, this is the strike in question:
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It would make sense that the Civil War armor is the most advanced one yet in terms of every stat across the board, but
- Avengers Armor gave a good fight to Thor (including some hammer shots and Thor attempting to crush Tony's left repulsor/gauntlet) and got hit around like a Ping-Pong ball in the SHIELD helicarrier's engine blades.
Now, compare this with IM3:
- Tony's remote-controlled armor gets smashed to bits by a tractor trailer. Makes no sense in light of his "inferior" armor model taking on Thor and all it survived in Avengers.
Furthermore, let's look at the Civil War armor:
- Bucky grips and then outright crushes one of Tony's repulsors/gauntlets. Is Bucky's robo-arm grip stronger than Thor's grip? I think not. Also stuff like Steve and Bucky rocking Tony with punches, Tony getting pinned down by falling cars, Steve overpowering Tony's boosters, etc.
It's clear by feats that Tony's suits in IM3 and Civil War aren't up to the same level as his suits in IM, IM2, Avengers, and Age of Ultron.