Wolverine vs. MCU Lady Sif

Started by FrothByte15 pages

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Like knife through butter.

Lol. It matters none. Her weapons are useless agaonst Adamantium!

Logan is 1000x more durable plus he only needs some cuts to bring her down.

The OP never stated K.O. means defeat! Plus how does Sif K.O's Wolverine!? Punches isnt viable, she would get impaled for that.

Furthermore, what makes you think Sif is stronger than Sabertooth!?

Review your common sense and watch the movies again.

Lady Sif has no weapon to harm Wolverine. Wolverine wins sooner or later that's common sense.

1. Prove that Wolverine can actually cut through someone as tough as an asgardian. Remember that regular katanas were blocking hits from his claws.

2. Her weapons can easily tear through his flesh. And with enough wounds, Wolverine can get downed.

3. Wolverine got knocked out by Sabertooth. Sif has better strength feats (just watch her in AoS)

4. A KO is a win as per default mvf rules

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
By the fact that she's bulletproof and can kick rv's quite a distance. All asgardians are stronger than Sabertooth. Logan was knocked out by a 9mm. Sif can replicate that. Can Logan hurt her or kill her? Yes. But I doubt he can do it before she knocks his ass out or ragdolls him.

Make an Adamantium bullet and she gets killed.

You mean Stryker's revolver? Remember it had an Adamantium bullet. Only reason Wolverine was hurt.

Sabertooth can pick a tree with 0 effort. No evidence to prove such point.

Again how could Sif do so? She gets killed the moment she gets closed.

This isnt a K.O. battle. Even if Logan get's K.O he will stand up time and time again until Sif dies.

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Prove that Wolverine can actually cut through someone as tough as an asgardian. Remember that regular katanas were blocking hits from his claws.

2. Her weapons can easily tear through his flesh. And with enough wounds, Wolverine can get downed.

3. Wolverine got knocked out by Sabertooth. Sif has better strength feats (just watch her in AoS)

4. A KO is a win as per default mvf rules

1.Its Adamantium!!

https://youtu.be/9jqZQWuuaF8

Minute 1:20: If Thor gets cut by a knife then Sif gets Sliced into pieces!!

By the way, the Son of Odin was wearing an armor. What makes you even believe Sif has a chance against Adamantium claws?

2. A really bold statement. Forgot that Wolverine has superfast regeneration? Point rebuked.

3. You made a good defense. Yet you forgot a very important thing: OP stated wolverine at his prime.

X3 scene: https://youtu.be/LDV97LZb7y4

The Juggernaut is stronger than both Sif and Sabertooth together!

Wolverine withstood Juggetnaut.

Sif has 0 chance of K.O.

4. Which rule states that? Please refresh my mind.

For anyone who still believes Sif can K.O Logan at his prime.

https://youtu.be/9jqZQWuuaF8

Sif isnt near as strong as Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
For anyone who still believes Sif can K.O Logan at his prime.

https://youtu.be/9jqZQWuuaF8

Sif isnt near as strong as Juggernaut.

What good is this clip? Wolverine is nowhere near as strong or durable as Loki is.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1.Its Adamantium!!

https://youtu.be/9jqZQWuuaF8

Minute 1:20: If Thor gets cut by a knife then Sif gets Sliced into pieces!!

By the way, the Son of Odin was wearing an armor. What makes you even believe Sif has a chance against Adamantium claws?

2. A really bold statement. Forgot that Wolverine has superfast regeneration? Point rebuked.

3. You made a good defense. Yet you forgot a very important thing: OP stated wolverine at his prime.

X3 scene: https://youtu.be/LDV97LZb7y4

The Juggernaut is stronger than both Sif and Sabertooth together!

Wolverine withstood Juggetnaut.

Sif has 0 chance of K.O.

4. Which rule states that? Please refresh my mind.

1. That was an Asgardian knife, possibly magical, wielded by Loki who has a pretty high degree of superhuman strength. Wolverine is nowhere near Loki's strength. Surely you understand the basic principles of needing strength in order to cut or stab through something right?

2. Super fast regeneration that didn't stop him from getting knocked out by a shot to the head, or getting drained of blood by Deathstrike, or getting knocked out by too many arrows.

3. Dude, X1 WAS Wolverine in his prime. So was X2. And X3. And pretty much any movie after he got his adamantium but before old man Logan. I don't think you understand what prime means.

4. Unless otherwise stated, KO's and BFRs are considered match wins. Basically anything that stops a fighter from continuing to fight.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Make an Adamantium bullet and she gets killed.

You mean Stryker's revolver? Remember it had an Adamantium bullet. Only reason Wolverine was hurt.

Sabertooth can pick a tree with 0 effort. No evidence to prove such point.

Again how could Sif do so? She gets killed the moment she gets closed.

This isnt a K.O. battle. Even if Logan get's K.O he will stand up time and time again until Sif dies.

1. Prove it
2.A very small tree, prove that takes more strength than casually kicking a trailer across a parking lot.
3.Prove it
4.You don't make the rules.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What good is this clip? Wolverine is nowhere near as strong or durable as Loki is.

Logan also doesn't have magical knives.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Remember that regular katanas were blocking hits from his claws.

To be fair, his claws are inconsistent as all hell, and perform as the plot demands them to. In one instance, fodder with katanas can block him. In others, he easily does things like this:

YouTube video

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
To be fair, his claws are inconsistent as all hell, and perform as the plot demands them to. In one instance, fodder with katanas can block him. In others, he easily does things like this:

YouTube video

To be fair, a shotgun is hollow inside whereas a katana is solid steel.

Plus, Asgardian armor and metal >>>>>>>> shotgun/katana.

Originally posted by FrothByte
To be fair, a shotgun is hollow inside whereas a katana is solid steel.

Shotguns are made from very high grade materials though. And that is just one example out of many. Here is another one, at 1:48:

YouTube video

He also tanks a gunshot to the forehead at 1:33. Like I have said many times before, Wolverine is inconsistent as f***.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Shotguns are made from very high grade materials though. And that is just one example out of many. Here is another one, at 1:48:

YouTube video

He also tanks a gunshot to the forehead at 1:33. Like I have said many times before, Wolverine is inconsistent as f***.

Yes, high-grade material but is still very thin (outer diameter minus inner diameter), at least in comparison to the beefy blade of a katana. In any case, an Asgardian farmer crumpled a tactical knife which is tougher than both katana and shotgun barrel.

As for the gunshot, the one he tanks is a glancing hit, as seen with the bullet ricocheting off his head. The one that knocked him out had the bullet still stuck to his forehead IIRC, which means it's a more direct shot.

I will agree that he's inconsistent though.

Is he really that inconsistent to head shots though? he got knocked out at least twice by bullets to the head, was at least stunned for several seconds after going head first through a windshield and was ko'd after being hit by a small tree.

I'm probably forgetting a few examples.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes, high-grade material but is still very thin (outer diameter minus inner diameter), at least in comparison to the beefy blade of a katana. In any case, an Asgardian farmer crumpled a tactical knife which is tougher than both katana and shotgun barrel.

As for the gunshot, the one he tanks is a glancing hit, as seen with the bullet ricocheting off his head. The one that knocked him out had the bullet still stuck to his forehead IIRC, which means it's a more direct shot.

I will agree that he's inconsistent though.

I looked at that clip in slowmo on another site. To me it looks like the bullet hits him right in the forehead, but bounces off as his head snaps backwards.

As to the shotgun, fair enough. But he also slices through what looks like a couple inch thick solid Weapon X bunker doors without any problems, as shown in the clip. Then there are even more showings, like this one, at 0:53, or 1:17:

YouTube video

Even crusty, half-dead, old-ass Logan managed to easily slice through a steel harpoon that was stuck in his leg. And there are even more that I could probably pull up if necessary. Anyway, I am not saying Logan wins or anything like that. My point is basically that considering how much he fluctuates, the katanas taking hits is somewhat of a low end compared to other cutting feats he has.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I looked at that clip in slowmo on another site. To me it looks like the bullet hits him right in the forehead, but bounces off as his head snaps backwards.

As to the shotgun, fair enough. But he also slices through what looks like a couple inch thick solid Weapon X bunker doors without any problems, as shown in the clip. Then there are even more showings, like this one, at 0:53, or 1:17:

YouTube video

Even crusty, half-dead, old-ass Logan managed to easily slice through a steel harpoon that was stuck in his leg. And there are even more that I could probably pull up if necessary. Anyway, I am not saying Logan wins or anything like that. My point is basically that considering how much he fluctuates, the katanas taking hits is somewhat of a low end compared to other cutting feats he has.

Things in motion are usually harder to cut through than things held in stasis. That's why a wooden staff can be used to block hits from a sword or even axe without breaking but will get chopped in half if it was held in a vice and then allowed to get struck by an axe.

Actually now that I think about it, if you hold a sword in a vice crosswise, along it's flat, then struck it with another sword, there's a good chance you can break it.

Anyway, my point being that the blast doors and the steel harpoon were held in place as he cut them, whereas the katanas (and theoretically Sif) will be moving.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What good is this clip? Wolverine is nowhere near as strong or durable as Loki is.

Are you kidding me!?

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. That was an Asgardian knife, possibly magical, wielded by Loki who has a pretty high degree of superhuman strength. Wolverine is nowhere near Loki's strength. Surely you understand the basic principles of needing strength in order to cut or stab through something right?

2. Super fast regeneration that didn't stop him from getting knocked out by a shot to the head, or getting drained of blood by Deathstrike, or getting knocked out by too many arrows.

3. Dude, X1 WAS Wolverine in his prime. So was X2. And X3. And pretty much any movie after he got his adamantium but before old man Logan. I don't think you understand what prime means.

4. Unless otherwise stated, KO's and BFRs are considered match wins. Basically anything that stops a fighter from continuing to fight.

1.Your point has no base. Nowhere was it stated it was a magical knife, it could as well be a common metal knife. Even if it is, being magical doesnt make it stronger than Adamantium. Lol, Logan is as strong or stronger than Loki.

Give a 14 year old a Katana and he would cut through your guts as easily as a Samurai.

Wolverine is categorized as superstrong. Plus he has Adamantium claws (Adamantium is the strongest and best marvel metal for cutting). Lady Sif gets cut down!!!

2. And Adamantium bullet which broke through the skull and hit the brains. Unless Lady Sif gets a magnum with such a bullet or a Adamantium superhot sword Wolverine Stomps.

3. Doesnt work that way! The moment the Juggernaut doesnt K.O. X3 Wolverine automatically makes it stronger than X1 version. You are the one who doesnt understand what it means.

Juggernaut is stronger than Sabertooth. Sif has no chance of K.O.

4. No rule states such thing. The OP has to state that K.O is allowed in order to enable it. This isnt a H2H or a slugfest.

But either way I already proved you that Wolverine cant get K.O by Wolverine.

Originally posted by Silent Master
1. Prove it
2.A very small tree, prove that takes more strength than casually kicking a trailer across a parking lot.
3.Prove it
4.You don't make the rules.

1. If it pierces Adamantium it pierces everything. I guesd it is pretty logical.

2. A very small tree!!? Haha you couldnt even lift up 1/4 of that tree my friend.

Sif doesnt really have an advantage.

3.Proof it? Lol its logical that the moment she gets close Wolverine is in range to ise his claws.

4. Nor do you my dear friend.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Logan also doesn't have magical knives.

What doesn magic have to do here? Lol.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Things in motion are usually harder to cut through than things held in stasis. That's why a wooden staff can be used to block hits from a sword or even axe without breaking but will get chopped in half if it was held in a vice and then allowed to get struck by an axe.

Actually now that I think about it, if you hold a sword in a vice crosswise, along it's flat, then struck it with another sword, there's a good chance you can break it.

Anyway, my point being that the blast doors and the steel harpoon were held in place as he cut them, whereas the katanas (and theoretically Sif) will be moving.

Except there are instances in, for example, his fight with Shingen, where Shingen blocks Logan's hits directly, blade against blade, taking the brunt of them head on, so the force of the blows aren't deflected or redirected, and his swords are perfectly fine.

But anyway, I'd back Sif, as we've seen Logan get tooled by more skilled opponents who were physically weaker and less durable than her multiple times before. And while I do think the katanas not getting sliced up by Logan's claws is a low end, Asgardian weaponry is obviously superior to earthly swords, based on screen feats, so I don't see them being damaged as easily as any of the things we have seen Fox adamantium damage.

Logan stomps.

Sif doesnt have a real advantage anywhere!

Her speed is the only thing that could help her. But Adamantium Wolverine at his prime took head to head with the Juggernaut!

Even Thor himself would have trouble against Wolverine.

Sif has NO CHANCE here.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Are you kidding me!?

1.Your point has no base. Nowhere was it stated it was a magical knife, it could as well be a common metal knife. Even if it is, being magical doesnt make it stronger than Adamantium. Lol, Logan is as strong or stronger than Loki.

Give a 14 year old a Katana and he would cut through your guts as easily as a Samurai.

Wolverine is categorized as superstrong. Plus he has Adamantium claws (Adamantium is the strongest and best marvel metal for cutting). Lady Sif gets cut down!!!

2. And Adamantium bullet which broke through the skull and hit the brains. Unless Lady Sif gets a magnum with such a bullet or a Adamantium superhot sword Wolverine Stomps.

3. Doesnt work that way! The moment the Juggernaut doesnt K.O. X3 Wolverine automatically makes it stronger than X1 version. You are the one who doesnt understand what it means.

Juggernaut is stronger than Sabertooth. Sif has no chance of K.O.

4. No rule states such thing. The OP has to state that K.O is allowed in order to enable it. This isnt a H2H or a slugfest.

But either way I already proved you that Wolverine cant get K.O by Wolverine.

1. If it pierces Adamantium it pierces everything. I guesd it is pretty logical.

2. A very small tree!!? Haha you couldnt even lift up 1/4 of that tree my friend.

Sif doesnt really have an advantage.

3.Proof it? Lol its logical that the moment she gets close Wolverine is in range to ise his claws.

4. Nor do you my dear friend.

What doesn magic have to do here? Lol.

Ok hold up. Before we go any further, what do you mean Wolverine is as strong as Loki? You must be the only person in this entire forum that thinks this.

Asgardians are strong enough to easily bend steel bars, kick around trailers, crumple tactical knives in their hands and are tough enough to be bullet proof. Wolverine is nowhere near that strong or durable.

Give your 14 yr old a katana then ask him to cut down an oak tree. See how well that goes.

P.S. - cut it out with the adamantium bullet nonsense already. The bullet that knocked out Wolverine was a regular bullet fired by a cop.