Originally posted by Silent Master
He doesn't deal in proof, all he has Are No Limit fallacies and his opinion
another h1..
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol.Does she have unpenetrable skin!? Where is that said?
So far you are proving ignorance.
oh little man grow up you dummy troll.. you make me laugh just like h1
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I dont recall any MCU scene where Thor is moving equivalent forces to what Wolverine did in that scene.Please bring me evidence.
Jeeze. You're worse than H1. Go and watch the MCU movies first before blabbering, it's obvious you haven't watched them. When you can find evidence of Wolverine overpowering someone like IM, let me know.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Jeeze. You're worse than H1. Go and watch the MCU movies first before blabbering, it's obvious you haven't watched them. When you can find evidence of Wolverine overpowering someone like IM, let me know.
Am a serious debater. As i told Bruce, if you wont discuess seriously REFRAIN yourself from posting.
Ive given you evidence. You are clearly avoiding giving yours.
Reply when you are actually interesting in debating. Until then youve lost this debate.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Am a serious debater. As i told Bruce, if you wont discuess seriously REFRAIN yourself from posting.Ive given you evidence. You are clearly avoiding giving yours.
Reply when you are actually interesting in debating. Until then youve lost this debate.
Dude. Did you even read my post? Thor overpowered Ironman. Ironman who's strong enough to catch and throw cars. Do you think Wolverine is strong enough to lift and throw a car?
Heck, do you think Wolverine can actually win against Thor in a tug-of-war contest?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude. Did you even read my post? Thor overpowered Ironman. Ironman who's strong enough to catch and throw cars. Do you think Wolverine is strong enough to lift and throw a car?Heck, do you think Wolverine can actually win against Thor in a tug-of-war contest?
Thor was physically strong enough to catch a falling car, and then fly around while holding it with one hand (considering he was holding onto Mjolnir with the other to fly), as seen in this clip, here. You see the green car drop off the edge, along with the red one, at 0:12 odd. And then Thor drops it at 0:43 mark:
What actually makes it so impressive is that the green car was in free fall for over 10 seconds before Thor could even begin to pursue it. So, it would have been going fast by the time he caught up to it. And then he grabbed it and flew all the way back up in about the same time it took Cap to finish his business.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Is that a ****ing joke?
Dead serious. We go by feats. Juggernaut had 3 scenes.
His intro when Mags released him, his shitty fight with Logan and his only actual strength feats. Throwing a 200 pb man as high as an average ceiling. And thin his chasing of kitty pride, where his momentum allowed him to run through walls.
Sif's strength feats actually dwarf anything Juggs showed. Sucks don't it?
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderIf anything, that proves he's weaker, in the same situation Loki would have just ignored the weaklings that can't even pierce his skin and maybe killed the ones that got in his way in one punch.
That doesnt prove Lucky being stronger!Logan could do the same thing!.
If Lucky thinks he is stronger than Logan then this is what Logan would say, "Go **** yourself pretty boy!"
It took more than 20 ninjas + a poisoned arrow to stop the Wolverine.
I REPEAT! SIF HAS 0 CHANCE.
I have given you evidence.
Luvky wouldnt even hold half the man Wolverine did in that scene!
Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude. Did you even read my post? Thor overpowered Ironman. Ironman who's strong enough to catch and throw cars. Do you think Wolverine is strong enough to lift and throw a car?Heck, do you think Wolverine can actually win against Thor in a tug-of-war contest?
Hahahaha when did Thor ever outpowered Iron Man!?
The fact that Thor fought Iron Mand doesnt make his as strong as Iron Man!
Wolverine was able to move 30+ Ninjas!
If each Ninja weights 70kg then we are talking about 2100kg!!!!
Plus the Ninjas where applying force themselves so that increades the weight dramatically!
If Wolverine wouldnt have been poisoned whe could have moved them!
So please reconsider your position!
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Thor was physically strong enough to catch a falling car, and then fly around while holding it with one hand (considering he was holding onto Mjolnir with the other to fly), as seen in this clip, here. You see the green car drop off the edge, along with the red one, at 0:12 odd. And then Thor drops it at 0:43 mark:What actually makes it so impressive is that the green car was in free fall for over 10 seconds before Thor could even begin to pursue it. So, it would have been going [B]fast
by the time he caught up to it. And then he grabbed it and flew all the way back up in about the same time it took Cap to finish his business. [/B]
Watch the scene better. Thor never hold the car.
He felt on the car and threw the woman towards Cap.
Thor wasnt holding it
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Dead serious. We go by feats. Juggernaut had 3 scenes.
His intro when Mags released him, his shitty fight with Logan and his only actual strength feats. Throwing a 200 pb man as high as an average ceiling. And thin his chasing of kitty pride, where his momentum allowed him to run through walls.Sif's strength feats actually dwarf anything Juggs showed. Sucks don't it?
You clearly DONT KNOW what you are talking about.
First of all you need to review your physics.
To built up momentum you need force! To replicate the amount of momentum the Juggernaut used in that scene we are talking about TONS OF STRENGTH!
A normal car for instance. A 100HP car at a 100km speed could barely break a concrete wall.
The Juggernaut went through SEVERAL concrete walls with 0 effort.
Sif is NOWHERE NEAR Juggernaut's strength.
The only character who could cross those walls the way the Juggernaut did is Hulk.
So again, was that a Joke?
Reviewing the participants and replying to other's opinions Ive drawn up my conclusions.
1. Wolverine's Superfast regeneration and Adamantium Bones makes him basically undestructible!! Unless Sif has an Adamantium bullet (Like Stryker) or a Superhot Adamantium sword (like Silver Samurai) there is no way Sif can kill him.
2. Wolverine's Adamantium claws can cut through almost any material. Chances are that Sif will get cut down.
3. The OP never stated this was a slugfest or a hand to hand combat therefore K.O. isnt valid. Furthermore, Wolverine enduring punches from the Juggernaut makes K.O. highly unprobable.
With all these said, my conclusion is:
Originally posted by FrothByte
So what you're saying is that Wolverine can beat Thor in a tug-of-war yes?
Not really.
I wouldnt dare say anyone is stronger than the other becaude there isnt a clear comparison to use.
But you clearly UNDERESTIMATE wolverine's strength.
If Wolverine is stronger than Lucky? Yes that he is.
Thor? Maybe.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Not really.I wouldnt dare say anyone is stronger than the other becaude there isnt a clear comparison to use.
But you clearly UNDERESTIMATE wolverine's strength.
If Wolverine is stronger than Lucky? Yes that he is.
Thor? Maybe.
You just said Thor wouldn't have been able to pull those ninjas like Wolverine did, so it seemed to imply that you thought Wolverine is stronger. Do you think Wolverine can catch IM's punch mid swing and casually crush his armor?
Originally posted by FrothByte
You just said Thor wouldn't have been able to pull those ninjas like Wolverine did, so it seemed to imply that you thought Wolverine is stronger. Do you think Wolverine can catch IM's punch mid swing and casually crush his armor?
Maybe he could maybe he couldnt. The reason why am skeptical is because if well Thor hasnt really showned levels of strength to par that of Wolverine with the Ninjas I havent seen Ragnarok.
We could see a more powerful Thor in Ragnarok.
Yes. Wolverine could stop IM's punch.
Well his claws would demolish IM's suit.
But either way, what does Thor have to do here!? Sif's strength isnt in par to Odin's son.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Maybe he could maybe he couldnt. The reason why am skeptical is because if well Thor hasnt really showned levels of strength to par that of Wolverine with the Ninjas I havent seen Ragnarok.We could see a more powerful Thor in Ragnarok.
Yes. Wolverine could stop IM's punch.
Well his claws would demolish IM's suit.
But either way, what does Thor have to do here!? Sif's strength isnt in par to Odin's son.
Discussing Thor here is not quite as important to the match as it is more to establish your credibility. When you imply Wolverine can be around as strong as Thor, that starts making your credibility laughable. Thor has casually crushed IM's armor and has even blocked a full hit from Hulk. Yet for some reason you don't think he can pull those 20 ninjas like Wolverine did. Heck, Wolverine wasn't even pulling against those ninjas, it's not like they were bracing against him up until the very last moment.
As for Sif, she was strong enough to casually push around a trailer. Wolverine has no such strength feats. An Asgardian farmer was able to crumple a tactical knife in his hand. Again, Wolverine has no such strength feat.
If you want to claim that Wolverine is too fast and too skilled for Sif, then we can debate that. But right now you're claiming that Wolverine is just as strong if not stronger than Asgardians, and that's just BS.