Wolverine vs. MCU Lady Sif

Started by Silent Master15 pages
Originally posted by FrothByte
So you think Mjolnir also magically enhanced Thor's grip so he doesn't drop the car? Or maybe you think it enhances his arm strength so his arm doesn't get ripped by the car's weight?

Like I said, he doesn't understand how lighting works.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You do know that grabbing something depends more on your msucular strength than your bone strength right?

The list of things he doesn't understand grows by the minute.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you think Mjolnir also magically enhanced Thor's grip so he doesn't drop the car? Or maybe you think it enhances his arm strength so his arm doesn't get ripped by the car's weight?

I never said Thor isnt superstrong, nor did I said he LIFT UP A CAR!

Okay boys. This goes for silent too.

http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_complete_powers#axzz4wYH7Lzvt

Then watch this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfYZZDTays

If youd know what you are talking about or watch the movies youd know that Thor is not only stronger than the normal Asgardian but that his armor and his hammer enhances his strength and abilities.

When Odin removed his powers he became a normal Asgardian.

A normal Asgardian is stronger than a normal Human but no where near as strong as Thor.

Thor's Hammer and equipment makes him stronger.

So it was actually Mjolnir holding and Lifting most of that car dude.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Like I said, he doesn't understand how lighting works.

The list of things he doesn't understand grows by the minute.

Its clearly you are ignorant of the Marvel universe and it's characters.

You actually thought he Lift up the car? Really ignorant.

He hold the car. A feat that Wolverine could replicate.

No, when Odin removed Thor's powers he was reduced to human level, At some point you need to realize that this is the movie versus Forum. so only what the movies show count.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never said Thor isnt superstrong, nor did I said he LIFT UP A CAR!

Okay boys. This goes for silent too.

http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_complete_powers#axzz4wYH7Lzvt

Then watch this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfYZZDTays

If youd know what you are talking about or watch the movies youd know that Thor is not only stronger than the normal Asgardian but that his armor and his hammer enhances his strength and abilities.

When Odin removed his powers he became a normal Asgardian.

A normal Asgardian is stronger than a normal Human but no where near as strong as Thor.

Thor's Hammer and equipment makes him stronger.

So it was actually Mjolnir holding and Lifting most of that car dude.

For the last time Josh, this is not the comics. This is a movie forum, only movie feats count. Info from comics has nothing to do with this.

Also convenient how you sidestepped Thor's grip or arm strength in lifting the car.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Its clearly you are ignorant of the Marvel universe and it's characters.

You actually thought he Lift up the car? Really ignorant.

He hold the car. A feat that Wolverine could replicate.

We get it, you don't understand how lifting works.

Originally posted by Silent Master
We get it, you don't understand how lifting works.

Typical of you. When you lose the debate you go with personal comments.

We get it you dont understand the difference between lifting and holding.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Typical of you. When you lose the debate you go with personal comments.

We get it you dont understand the difference between lifting and holding.

You do realize that it requires strength to hold on to something, correct?

Originally posted by FrothByte
For the last time Josh, this is not the comics. This is a movie forum, only movie feats count. Info from comics has nothing to do with this.

Also convenient how you sidestepped Thor's grip or arm strength in lifting the car.

Watched the video, or just conviniently ignored it?

If i tie a rock to a rope who is putting force to lift up the rock? The rope or my arm????

The only reason why I am debating this with you is because i consider you more rational than Silent

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do realize that it requires strength to hold on to something, correct?

When you use a shovel to pick up dirt. Who lifts up the dirt?

The shovel or your arms?

Who lift up the car? The Hammer or Thor?

Your attempt at semantics does not change the strength required to perform the feat. All you're doing is making yourself look incredibly silly and immature.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your attempt at semantics does not change the strength required to perform the feat. All you're doing is making yourself look incredibly silly and immature.

The only thing you are doing is looking yourself extremely UNLOGICAL!

Answer this one.

You are at the top of a building. You tie a rock with a rope. You cast the rock down and then lift it up. Who is putting the strength to lift up the rock?

Holding and Lifting arent the same thing boy.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Watched the video, or just conviniently ignored it?

If i tie a rock to a rope who is putting force to lift up the rock? The rope or my arm????

The only reason why I am debating this with you is because i consider you more rational than Silent

If I tied a rope to a rock then lifted the rope, I'm still applying strength enough to lift the rock. That's not really the proper analogy here however.

A better one would be, if I'm hanging from a rope with one hand and holding a 100 pound dumbell with the other, am I not carrying that 100 pound dumbell just because I'm hanging on to a rope?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The only thing you are doing is looking yourself extremely UNLOGICAL!

Answer this one.

You are at the top of a building. You tie a rock with a rope. You cast the rock down and then lift it up. Who is putting the strength to lift up the rock?

Holding and Lifting arent the same thing boy.

The word you're looking for is illogical and the fact that you think so only proves that you don't understand what we're discussing.

Originally posted by FrothByte
If I tied a rope to a rock then lifted the rope, I'm still applying strength enough to lift the rock. That's not really the proper analogy here however.

A better one would be, if I'm hanging from a rope with one hand and holding a 100 pound dumbell with the other, am I not carrying that 100 pound dumbell just because I'm hanging on to a rope?

Answering your one no.

You are not carrying the dumbell. You are holding the dumbell and whosoever is pulling the rope is carrying both of you.

Doesnt mean you have the strength to LIFT up the dumbell.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The word you're looking for is illogical and the fact that you think so only proves that you don't understand what we're discussing.

Illogical.

This discussion is over. This thread didnt even concern Thor. So lets just forget it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
If I tied a rope to a rock then lifted the rope, I'm still applying strength enough to lift the rock. That's not really the proper analogy here however.

A better one would be, if I'm hanging from a rope with one hand and holding a 100 pound dumbell with the other, am I not carrying that 100 pound dumbell just because I'm hanging on to a rope?

My analogue was right.

Cause it proves that the rope isnt lifting the rock but holding it.

Just like Thor is holding the car. Without the Hammer Thor couldnt do it.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
My analogue was right.

Cause it proves that the rope isnt lifting the rock but holding it.

Just like Thor is holding the car. Without the Hammer Thor couldnt do it.

Seriously dude, you can't be this dumb. If you fell off a cliff and I grabbed your hand then started pulling you up, and in the other hand you were holding a 100 pound dumbell. Would you say you weren't lifting the dumbell just because I was pulling you up with your other hand?

Thor is not a rope, he actually needs to grip the car and that takes a tremendous amount of strength.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Illogical.

This discussion is over. This thread didnt even concern Thor. So lets just forget it.

You compared Wolverine's strength level to that of Thor, therefore this is entirely relevant to the discussion.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Seriously dude, you can't be this dumb. If you fell off a cliff and I grabbed your hand then started pulling you up, and in the other hand you were holding a 100 pound dumbell. Would you say you weren't lifting the dumbell just because I was pulling you up with your other hand?

He probably thinks he could hold on to the Titanic as long as someone else was doing the pulling.