Marka Ragnos vs. Emperor Palpatine

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Marka Ragnos vs. Emperor Palpatine

Palpatine is chilling on Naboo a week after ROTS wheb suddenly Ragnos appears in flesh and blood! Who wins?

1. Sabers

2. Force

3. All out.

You can't be serious.

I thought this was another necro'd thread from 2005.

Prolly Ragnos

Ragnos deadlifts Terentateks, does Sheev even lift bruh?

Palpatine ends him in a single attack.

Funny how Palpatine was utterly overwhelmed by Ragnos and a few other, lesser spirits and nearly died. Requiring a bacta tank to heal himself no less.

Originally posted by BlueTiger1144
Palpatine ends him in a single attack.
Originally posted by Azronger

Is AP a retard?

That's the best the Sheev brigade has to offer? As disappointing as usual.

Originally posted by BlueTiger1144
Is AP a retard?

Probably. He/she/it is certainly a dishonest liar and a whiny, condescending airhead, desperate to knock Sheev off of his dark throne, but too stupid to understand it'll never happen.

1.Copying Ant from four years ago is just sad. 😬

2.Dishonest liar. You might want to find out what 'redundant' means. 😂

3.You realise there are at least ten people who make a most powerful Star Wars list before Sheev even gets an honorary mention, right?

4.At least I'm not an absolutely horrifically poor rip-off of a Gideon sock. 👆

Originally posted by AncientPower
Funny how Palpatine was utterly overwhelmed by Ragnos and a few other, lesser spirits and nearly died. Requiring a bacta tank to heal himself no less.

1. This was well before TPM, even.
2. We have no idea who the spirits even were. 😂

Do you ever get tired of being so dishonest?

1.What are you talking about? It takes place between ESB & ROTJ. Durga saves him and Vader arrives to check up on him whilst he's in the bacta tank.

2.Palpatine directly debunks Plagueis claiming that his vision of Ragnos on Korriban was merely in his head with the admittance that those spirits nearly killed him. It's in Book of Sith. Besides that, all other known Sith spirits were either already incapacitated or elsewhere. Ragnos is the only one of significance even on Korriban. So it's him with aid or Palps got shitstomped by fodder spirits, you pick.

Perhaps before claiming dishonesty you could actually inquire as to what I'm referring? 😬

Originally posted by AncientPower
1.What are you talking about? It takes place between ESB & ROTJ. Durga saves him and Vader arrives to check up on him whilst he's in the bacta tank.

Where was this noted, exactly? All we know is long, long ago before Sheev started commenting in BoS, he was nearly killed by spirits.

Originally posted by AncientPower
2.Palpatine directly debunks Plagueis claiming that his vision of Ragnos on Korriban was merely in his head with the admittance that those spirits nearly killed him. It's in Book of Sith. Besides that, all other known Sith spirits were either already incapacitated or elsewhere. Ragnos is the only one of significance even on Korriban. So it's him with aid or Palps got shitstomped by fodder spirits, you pick.

Perhaps before claiming dishonesty you could actually inquire as to what I'm referring? 😬

Palpatine just says that Sith Spirits are quite real; he never says he saw Ragnos amongst them:

Also, if you actually read the paragraph on which Palpatine was commenting, it's just Plagueis' thoughts on spirits in general, not just Marka Ragnos. The Ragnos dream comes after Sheev's comments.
Basically, you have no proof what spirits attacked Sidious, you have no correlation between them and Ragnos and you have no way of knowing whether they are fodder or not. Hell, them "nearly killing" Sidious doesn't mean they shitstomped him; it means they tried to kill him, came close to it but Sidious pulled out ahead.

1.The Emperor's Pawns issue of Star Wars Gamer.

2.Given Plagueis is referring directly to his trip to Korriban, and furthermore that Plagueis' vision of Ragnos is precisely the reason he's 'unconvinced'. That's a moot point.

3.They subdued him entirely and Jeng Droga had to personally take him back to Imperial Center so he could heal inside a bacta tank. Pretty sure if they wanted to kill him, he'd have died.

1. Apparently Droga was enough to rescue Palpatine from the assault of those spirits, and this written at a time where Sheev has apparently died "many times" and was yet to earn the title of the most powerful Dark Lord of the Sith. Regardless, all we know is Palpatine was injured and needed healing, Jeng Droga was enough to save him and the Sith spirits were angry with Palpatine because he wanted knowledge of everlasting life. Knowledge he later gained, I might add. And later on a hindered DE Sidious fought back against the same Sith Spirits who were pressing upon him... Yeah, they didn't subdue him entirely. Also, again, there's no specific timeframe given.

2. It doesn't matter because Sidious was commenting about Plagueis' statements of Sith Spirits in general. Marka is absolutely irrelevant to that. For a boastful ****, you really can't read properly or you just stretch these quotes beyond belief.

It took place in 0ABY, as far as I understand.

Well yes, Droga's arrival drove them off but then again it's stated that they overwhelmed Palpatine. So regardless, they attacked him and he required saving before being placed in a bacta tank. He didn't just heal himself through the Force, so evidently it was serious.

Not at all, I take things at face value and know for a fact that Ragnos was head of the ancient Sith spirits. Nadd included.

I'm still hesitant to put Ragnos above Nadd. Their spirit feats definitely go Freedon's way, but Marka has that quote...