Marka Ragnos vs. Emperor Palpatine

Well played by Azronger.

KMC Thread #14672: Sheev Brigade Strikes Back.

He really hasn't, that DS sourcebook quote would apply to the Exile and Exar Kun too. It's a pretty desperate attempt on his part.

Azronger smashed house there. So much for the lowballers.

Originally posted by godemperortrump
All you need to do to be Temp's equal is constantly get a spanking from Nai. I think you can do that

Funny how it was Nai who got a spanking from me the last time we had a debate.

Oh, and AP, care to show us where Meetra and Kun destroyed thousands of Sith spirits on their own?

Originally posted by Azronger
Funny how it was Nai who got a spanking from me the last time we had a debate.

Care to show me where Sheev did?

Meetra had to kill dozens of Hssiss, who were manifestations of Sith spirits, as she traversed the Valley of the Dark Lords. She faced even worse than that in the Tomb of Ludo Kressh.

Exar Kun slaughtered the dozens of tomb beasts who were commanded by Sith spirits as he entered the super special Sith Council hall that only ever appeared one other time.

Oh and just so you know, Korriban even as of Bane's time is nowhere near as potent as it had been when the two of them traversed it. Even more so for the Exile given that Revan a few years earlier slaughtered an entire academy of Sith. Those who remained massacred each other, something Traya explicitly warns her of.

You're trying to make it sound special, it's actually pathetic.

Are you equating murdering beasts of Korriban as being on par with destroying thousands of spirits and later warding off multiple of them in a near-death state?

BTW, yeah, this isn't really the most impressive feat for Sheev, but it's not a bad showing either like you originally tried to play it off. Your backpedaling is outstanding, tbh.

He hasn't even proven Sidious fought those spirits. He took a generic statement from the DS: Sourcebook about Korriban and implied that Sheev destroyed them all. 😂

But no, they aren't mere beasts. They are the spirits made manifest.

Why do people believe, force power weakens in near death states.
It shouldn't have any affect, unless their mental state is screwed.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He hasn't even proven Sidious fought those spirits. He took a generic statement from the DS: Sourcebook about Korriban and implied that Sheev destroyed them all. 😂

But no, they aren't mere beasts. They are the spirits made manifest.

Well, Sidious and Droga obviously did something pretty damaging to them. Az's point stands.

They did well enough to escape and Sidious was still so badly injured he required a bacta tank to recover from the damage.

My point stands, his is left flailing like a lobotomy patient.

I do concede that Ragnos may not be involved though so I don't see why you care.

Luke recquired a bacta tank after his fight with Caedus. He still stomped. Again, we don't know the exact circumstances and it seems they succeeded in defeating most and escaping.

Where exactly is it implied that they defeated them in any form? They cowed Sidious until he was grievously wounded and then Droga came and saved him, taking him back to Imperial Center where he was placed within a bacta tank to recover. Quite literally all that is stated.

The fact that there's far less spirits opposing Sheev in DE and also the fact that he can ward them off in a near-death state? Sure, Sidious was injured but that doesn't in any way denote the idea that he was fighting back against them, and this is especially supported by the fact that Droga was apparently enough to ward them off completely so they can escape.

Luke won his confrontation with Caedus, Palpatine lost his confrontation with 1000's of undead zombie/pirate types possed by lesser spirits.

This puts Palpatine directly below Will turner from Pirates of the Carribian.

We have no idea how many spirits even attacked him though. Furthermore, them pressing down on him could quite simply be them asking him to join them in Vader's place. As far as Droga is considered, he only ever stays with the Emperor's ship so I imagine he arrived after the fact. The reason I say that is because spirits don't retain their Force reserves, attacking Sidious so viciously was probably all they could muster so they left him in an injured state. In DEII that was the exception to the rule because Palpatine was actually dying.

Not fact, but it's certainly the most plausible string of events as I see it.

Originally posted by ziggtard
Luke won his confrontation with Caedus, Palpatine lost his confrontation with 1000's of undead zombie/pirate types possed by lesser spirits.

This puts Palpatine directly below Will turner from Pirates of the Carribian.

Damn. That reminds me, Kun fights exactly that before he enters the Tombs and faces the Tomb Beasts. Thanks.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Oh, mi lord. Your presence gives me new found strength in our revered master, Sheev Palpatine, blessed his name be, thank you. Help us rid ourselves of this Ragnos insurrectionists.

👍

Originally posted by Azronger
Ironic, but it's true. For once you did something productive with your life and ennobled Sheev in the eyes of this boards' members by exhorting me to do some affixed inquiry. Your benefaction to Sheevism has been most effiacacious 👆

Ennobled Sheev by allowing you to post a supposed feat that Jedi Kun -with his connection to the Force blocked by Nadd's spirit- actually accomplished prior to 'slaughtering' dozens of the far more dangerous tomb beasts.

Such a great boon for Sheev. 😂