Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Alive, not in fine conditions. Also, there's no saying for how long would he survive. He was very weak.He was outside the rings for a breif time. Am not refuting Thor's incredible endurance.
Rocket was inside the Rings along with Groot and Eitri.
Yes..That was my whole point. But Froth and SM seem to think Thor invincible.
Should the battle be taken inland Aquaman would hold no chance.
None of us ever claimed Thor was invincible. Why are you making stuff up?
Anyway, there are many other things that point to Thor not needing oxygen. Between AoU and Ragnarok he was apparently extensively traveling the universe trying to learn about the infinity stones and Ragnarok, yet we know he wasn't using the bifrost.
We also know that Loki was dropped in space at the end of Thor1 and had no issues surviving till he got to Earth.
In the end, your claim that Aquaman can drown Thor is without basis. Just admit it and move on. There are other ways the DCEU can win this battle.
Originally posted by FrothByte
None of us ever claimed Thor was invincible. Why are you making stuff up?
Because he can't back up his opinion with facts, so he's trying to attack the character of the other side so it'll seem like he's taking the high road by not debating us.
When in reality, he's just running away.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Alive, not in fine conditions. Also, there's no saying for how long would he survive. He was very weak.He was outside the rings for a breif time. Am not refuting Thor's incredible endurance.
Rocket was inside the Rings along with Groot and Eitri.
Yes..That was my whole point. But Froth and SM seem to think Thor invincible.
Should the battle be taken inland Aquaman would hold no chance.
"Being weak" in both instances had to do with A)Getting his ass kicked by Thanos and The Order and then being on an exploding ship B) Taking on the "full might" of a neutron star; there was no indication that Thor was injured/weak because he couldn't breathe. If you think so, show proof/reason.
Yes, inside the building/rings, where there could logically be an atmosphere. Thor was outside, in space.
Neither said Thor was "invincible", even if SM is a well known time-waster-troll, he didn't claim that. If so, show proof.
Originally posted by FrothByte
None of us ever claimed Thor was invincible. Why are you making stuff up?Anyway, there are many other things that point to Thor not needing oxygen. Between AoU and Ragnarok he was apparently extensively traveling the universe trying to learn about the infinity stones and Ragnarok, yet we know he wasn't using the bifrost.
We also know that Loki was dropped in space at the end of Thor1 and had no issues surviving till he got to Earth.
In the end, your claim that Aquaman can drown Thor is without basis. Just admit it and move on. There are other ways the DCEU can win this battle.
There is no solid evidence that Thor doesn't need oxigen. We see him inhale and exhale; breathe as anyone else.
You are free to speculate, just don't turn into fallacies.
DCEU still get wrecked.
/debate.
Originally posted by Robtard
"Being weak" in both instances had to do with A)Getting his ass kicked by Thanos and The Order and then being on an exploding ship B) Taking on the "full might" of a neutron star; there was no indication that Thor was injured/weak because he couldn't breathe. If you think so, show proof/reason.Yes, inside the building/rings, where there could logically be an atmosphere. Thor was outside, in space.
Neither said Thor was "invincible", even if SM is a well known time-waster-troll, he didn't claim that. If so, show proof.
Being weak in both instances had to do with a convination of factors, I never said Thor got weak solely due to the void or lack of O2.
Thor's durability is OP I concede. There is no knowing how fast does the lack of o2 affect Thor.
But to say he doesn't need to breathe forever is just absurd.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
There is no solid evidence that Thor doesn't need oxigen. We see him inhale and exhale; breathe as anyone else.You are free to speculate, just don't turn into fallacies.
DCEU still get wrecked.
/debate.
And yet I have given multiple proof to back up my claims. You have provided ZERO proof to backup your claim that Aquaman can actually drown Thor.
I also don't think the DCEU side gets "wrecked". I think the MCU side wins, but not easily by any means.
Originally posted by FrothByte
And yet I have given multiple proof to back up my claims. You have provided ZERO proof to backup your claim that Aquaman can actually drown Thor.
I have proven that Aquaman has the means to keep Thor underwater long enough for him to have an issue.
e.g. A Kraken and million of sea creatures.
Now, I never stated "Thor would definitely be drowned". Stop trying to strawman.
Thor could use Mjolnir or SB to fly away.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I have proven that Aquaman has the means to keep Thor underwater long enough for him to have an issue.e.g. A Kraken and million of sea creatures.
Now, I never stated "Thor would definitely be drowned". Stop trying to strawman.
Thor could use Mjolnir or SB to fly away.
Really? How long does Arthur need to keep Thor underwater for him to have an "issue" and how is Aquaman supposed to hold him down that long when Thor can simply fly away or electrocute his surroundings?
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Being weak in both instances had to do with a convination of factors, I never said Thor got weak solely due to the void or lack of O2.Thor's durability is OP I concede. There is no knowing how fast does the lack of o2 affect Thor.
But to say he doesn't need to breathe forever is just absurd.
Again, I can show you two instances of Thor surviving in space sans oxygen. If you want to insist that this is a problem for him, you need to show the proof.
His injuries at the beginning of the film seemed to be from getting beaten down and then being inside an exploding ship and then later because he tanked a neutron star for several minutes. Nothing indicated "because he couldn't breathe".
Maybe he doesn't, I'm not sure, I choose to believe he does need to breathe at some point as he's a living being made of what appears flesh and blood, but we're talking about a super-being so it could go either way. But as pointed out, for the purposes of this thread, it's irrelevant as he's not being drowned as you apparently tried to use.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Really? How long does Arthur need to keep Thor underwater for him to have an "issue" and how is Aquaman supposed to hold him down that long when Thor can simply fly away or electrocute his surroundings?
Long enough, battle fatigue and the lack od o2 will eventually defeat Odinson.
He has millions of creatures to hold him. Trolling mode Froth?
Originally posted by Robtard
Again, I can show you two instances of Thor surviving in space sans oxygen. If you want to insist that this is a problem for him, you need to show the proof.His injuries at the beginning of the film seemed to be from getting beaten down and then being inside an exploding ship and then later because he tanked a neutron star for several minutes. Nothing indicated "because he couldn't breathe".
Maybe he doesn't, I'm not sure, I choose to believe he does need to breathe at some point as he's a living being made of what appears flesh and blood, but we're talking about a super-being so it could go either way. But as pointed out, for the purposes of this thread, it's irrelevant as he's not being drowned as you apparently tried to use.
You can interpret/speculate on the feats as you wish.
The fact is that Thor was hurt and thrown into the void. There is a convination of factors that contribute to his condition. The extent of such effects is unknown, yet you can't ignore them.
I also choose to believe that Thor eventually needs to breathe, that's all I've been claiming.
The probability of Thor being drowned is low, yet possible should he be fool enough to try combat Arthur underwater.
I honestly think Thor wouldn't get into the water.
I repeat my claim, DCEU loses.
Why would Thor even be fighting Aquaman?Superman and Thor would almost certainly go after each other.
Aquaman could probably beat Thor on points underwater just because he is more adept at fighting in that environment and he did move pretty fast while in battle but Aquaman does not have the strength to ko/kill Thor and this whole Thor drowning debate is ridiculous. There is proof Thor can survive without oxygen for an extended period of time. Longer than a battle between these two would last.
But to be fair Aquaman and Thor would never face off because Aquaman is not top tier in this battle