Originally posted by ares834Spoiler:
"I will protect you, Grogu, until I see a bad dream and try to kill my nephew, and Palpatine destroys my academy and kills all my students - including you - with force lightning he threw from planet Exogol."**** the sequels.
Yes Fuq the sequels , BUT...
Spoiler:
Why would Grogu still be in the academy with the children. The force awakens takes place 30+ years after ROTJ right. Thats 25-30 years of training. Grogu would be way beyond the kindergarten Jedi class with the other kids (unless Grog's has a learning disability). He most likely moved on and wasn't killed. Maybe hes off in New Mandalore with and old King Din.This is the way they can fix/erase episodes 7, 8 and 9. Let episode 10, 11 and 12 or whatever take place 100 years after episode 9. So all those sh1t characters from the sequels would be dead and gone and Grogu would be in his prime, training new Jedi and/or making new stories that have nothing to do with the Skywalkers.
Originally posted by ares834
"Talent without training is nothing."lmao
They are just straight up shitting on the sequels here.
While I do agree with this 100%, Luke also was at fault of this in the OG trilogy. between episode 5 and 6 his Jedi training basically was the equivalent of someone taking a 3 week crash course online and thinking they are a Doctor when they get their certificate. Meaning Luke thinks he is a Jedi with a few weeks training. When Padawans trained for like 18+ years of their life to be considered a full fledged Jedi.
Still waaay better than the Rey garbage.
And lastly Din was pulling a Jon Snow with the "Ah dun wan et" as far as the dark saber.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Yes Fuq the sequels , BUT...Spoiler:
Why would Grogu still be in the academy with the children. The force awakens takes place 30+ years after ROTJ right. Thats 25-30 years of training. Grogu would be way beyond the kindergarten Jedi class with the other kids (unless Grog's has a learning disability). He most likely moved on and wasn't killed. Maybe hes off in New Mandalore with and old King Din.This is the way they can fix/erase episodes 7, 8 and 9. Let episode 10, 11 and 12 or whatever take place 100 years after episode 9. So all those sh1t characters from the sequels would be dead and gone and Grogu would be in his prime, training new Jedi and/or making new stories that have nothing to do with the Skywalkers.
While I do agree with this 100%, Luke also was at fault of this in the OG trilogy. between episode 5 and 6 his Jedi training basically was the equivalent of someone taking a 3 week crash course online and thinking they are a Doctor when they get their certificate. Meaning Luke thinks he is a Jedi with a few weeks training. When Padawans trained for like 18+ years of their life to be considered a full fledged Jedi.
Still waaay better than the Rey garbage.
And lastly Din was pulling a Jon Snow with the "Ah dun wan et" as far as the dark saber.
The difference is that Luke failed super hard and learned his lesson.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Yes Fuq the sequels , BUT...Spoiler:
Why would Grogu still be in the academy with the children. The force awakens takes place 30+ years after ROTJ right. Thats 25-30 years of training. Grogu would be way beyond the kindergarten Jedi class with the other kids (unless Grog's has a learning disability). He most likely moved on and wasn't killed. Maybe hes off in New Mandalore with and old King Din.
Doubt it. It's the Jedi Temple not just the Youngling Temple. It's for all the Jedi around and presumably Grogu would become a Jedi. He'd still be only a child by that time, so he's not going to be roaming the galaxy on his own. I guess he could go back to living with Din, but that would also seem kinda odd. But I suppose Luke's order will differentiate itself from the prequel's.
Originally posted by Inhuman
While I do agree with this 100%, Luke also was at fault of this in the OG trilogy. between episode 5 and 6 his Jedi training basically was the equivalent of someone taking a 3 week crash course online and thinking they are a Doctor when they get their certificate. Meaning Luke thinks he is a Jedi with a few weeks training. When Padawans trained for like 18+ years of their life to be considered a full fledged Jedi.
Luke trained a shit ton between the films. And this isn't merely from the EU either, it's implied in the films with Luke building his own lightsaber or using TK near the beginning of ESB. Sure, its not entirely consistent with the prequels but he wasn't using random force abilities for no reason.
Originally posted by ares834
Doubt it. It's the Jedi Temple not just the Youngling Temple. It's for all the Jedi around and presumably Grogu would become a Jedi. He'd still be only a child by that time, so he's not going to be roaming the galaxy on his own. I guess he could go back to living with Din, but that would also seem kinda odd. But I suppose Luke's order will differentiate itself from the prequel's.
Well with 30 or so years of training, Grogu would be a seasoned Jedi by then. He would either be teaching padawans himself or he moved on from the Jedi academy/temple to peruse other things. Like reunite with his old father figure, looking for the home planet of his people or whatever else. He would still be young (around 80+) , but he would probably be speaking by then and be a full fledge Jedi on top of it.
At any case, my point was that everyone assumes that Grogu is going to be killed off because of what happened in the sequel trilogy with Kylo. And these assumptions don't put much thought on the whole thing, like the time that has passed.
There are several ways they can write Grogu being still be alive and well. Since he shouldn't be by any means a student anymore by TFA timeline. Since he wasn't mentioned in the 3 sequel movies , they could say he was off galaxy somewhere or whatever.
I doubt Filoni and Favreau introduced Grogu just to kill him off in the sequels. They have littered these 2 seasons with seeds for other things. Grogu is one of those. (Hopefully). They could fix the shit sequels with something like my (flawless) plan i outlined for ep. 10,11,12.
Originally posted by ares834
Luke trained a shit ton between the films. And this isn't merely from the EU either, it's implied in the films with Luke building his own lightsaber or using TK near the beginning of ESB. Sure, its not entirely consistent with the prequels but he wasn't using random force abilities for no reason.
At any case it was still a a few months or a year max between episode 5 and 6. Still doesn't come close to the time it usually took padawans to become full fledged Jedi. Which was many years.
But still , I agree with you. That Luke's situation makes more sense than Rey's. And I can give it a pass, and isnt complete utter garbage like what they did with Rey.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Honestly, my guess for season 3, if I had one, is that there'll be a time jump. Maybe a year or so. And we'll see Mandalorian finally going to meet Luke and Grogu and take Grogu back.I don't think they'd seriously remove Grogu from the show for a considerable length of time.
My guess, is that moving forward we may get a Game of Thrones structure. Meaning the story may follow the perspectives of different characters.
Boba on Tatooine, then it cuts to Din on another planet, etc.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Honestly, my guess for season 3, if I had one, is that there'll be a time jump. Maybe a year or so. And we'll see Mandalorian finally going to meet Luke and Grogu and take Grogu back.I don't think they'd seriously remove Grogu from the show for a considerable length of time.
This is what I assumed as well. But some of the observations here are making me think he might be gone for now.
But I still have no doubt he will be back before the show ends.
Originally posted by Inhuman
My guess, is that moving forward we may get a Game of Thrones structure. Meaning the story may follow the perspectives of different characters.
Boba on Tatooine, then it cuts to Din on another planet, etc.
Oh, I'd fully expect that before any reunion. It's just a question of whether Hammill gets booked for that many episodes... or if they finally pull the trigger and bring in Sebastian Stan to play Luke.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
This is what I assumed as well. But some of the observations here are making me think he might be gone for now.But I still have no doubt he will be back before the show ends.
Definitely.