Originally posted by -Pr-
shrug I like Ahsoka.But yeah, If Stan wants to play Luke, and can actually do more than just bear a striking resemblance to him, then sure, throw a truck of money at him and have Filoni write it.
I just dont see the point of Ahsoka in this time period. Also I didnt feel Rosario nailed the role. But will see how it goes.
Oh a Luke series would be the sequel we all wanted. But I dont see it happening as Disney dont seem to be comfortable with recasting. But then they might be listening to all the cheering over the Mando season finale!
Originally posted by -Pr-
All thoseSpoiler:arguments just got ****ing wrecked.
Luke isn't that powerful a JediSpoiler:.
That's his Rogue One
Originally posted by Inhuman
While I do agree with this 100%, Luke also was at fault of this in the OG trilogy. between episode 5 and 6 his Jedi training basically was the equivalent of someone taking a 3 week crash course online and thinking they are a Doctor when they get their certificate. Meaning Luke thinks he is a Jedi with a few weeks training. When Padawans trained for like 18+ years of their life to be considered a full fledged Jedi.Still waaay better than the Rey garbage.
To be fair, this is 5 years post ROTJ. So Luke has been training for almost 10 years by this point, and possibly under the mentorship of Yoda, Ben and Anakin ghosts for half that time.
So the son of the Chosen One certainly should be utterly bad ass by this point.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
To be fair, this is 5 years post ROTJ. So Luke has been training for almost 10 years by this point, and possibly under the mentorship of Yoda, Ben and Anakin ghosts for half that time.So the son of the Chosen One certainly should be utterly bad ass by this point.
Sure.
I meant, Luke in the OG trilogy though.
Mando Luke did have the extra time to train more so that makes more sense.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
I love the universal praise this episode is getting because it shows the 'sexism' argument was wrong all along. This episode had 4 badass strong women solo'ing a light cruiser and not one person is complaining. Why? It was written well.
Honestly I didnt even think about the fact that it was 4 women fighting their way through the stormtroopers until somebody brought it up.
And thats how it should be.
IIRC it's been retconned that Luke had a good three years of training between ANH and ESB, and a good year between ESB and ROTJ. Add that to his time on Dagobah and that's not a small chunk of change, especially being the prodigy Luke is. I mean, look at the comics, which are, last I heard, canon. Luke is pretty impressive in those when he wants to be.
Was it just me though, or did anyone else think his style reminded of Anakin? The way he blocked the blasts and used a lot of one-handed strikes etc. Even if it's just me seeing things, I was impressed by the choreography. They really made it look like each strike could flow in to the next.
If a force sensitive had access to holocrons he could pretty much teach himself to become a Jedi those holocrons alone had everything you needed to know and you could just watch it over and over again similar to people today learning how to put a door in their house from watching YouTube.
I remember in one of the Rebels episodes Ezra was getting Lightsaber lessons from Anakin Skywalker via a holocron.
Granted serving as a Padawan to a Jedi would be more effective but learning from holocrons would work imo.
Originally posted by -Pr-
IIRC it's been retconned that Luke had a good three years of training between ANH and ESB, and a good year between ESB and ROTJ. Add that to his time on Dagobah and that's not a small chunk of change, especially being the prodigy Luke is. I mean, look at the comics, which are, last I heard, canon. Luke is pretty impressive in those when he wants to be.Was it just me though, or did anyone else think his style reminded of Anakin? The way he blocked the blasts and used a lot of one-handed strikes etc. Even if it's just me seeing things, I was impressed by the choreography. They really made it look like each strike could flow in to the next.
Yeah but it was still just 4years. Even if hes a fast learner, Realistically he should just be a very talented padawan. But not Vader level. Theres zero logic to him being THAT good by that point IMO. Unless we want to give him a dose of Rey logic which Id rather not.
Give it another 5 years though (aka Mandalorian Luke) and that debate is no longer relevant. He could easily be above Vader level by that point.
Originally posted by Darth ThorIt was the same in Legends, though, so it's not exactly a new concept. Logical or not, Luke was just that much of a prodigy.
Yeah but it was still just 4years. Even if hes a fast learner, Realistically he should just be a very talented padawan. But not Vader level. Theres zero logic to him being THAT good by that point IMO.
If you want to try and consolidate it in new canon, then you could go the whole "darkness rises and light to meet it" route(ie. Luke was essentially a tool of the Cosmic Force itself.) Couple that with Luke's asinine potential(which Palpatine himself indicated was on par with Anakin's), and it could also help account for his growth by RotJ... Aside from the training he had undergone by then, obvs.
Originally posted by juggernaut74Grogu was in the Jedi Temple during TCW/Order 66, so I wouldn't be surprised if he and R2 had met at some point. /shrug
Did anyone watching the finale get the impression than Grogu and R2 knew each other? When R2 appears we see Grogu holding on to Mando's leg then we see R2 enter the room Grogu lets go of Mando's leg and walks right up to R2 who then shakes from side to side with what I can assume in glee.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but it was still just 4years. Even if hes a fast learner, Realistically he should just be a very talented padawan. But not Vader level. Theres zero logic to him being THAT good by that point IMO. Unless we want to give him a dose of Rey logic which Id rather not.Give it another 5 years though (aka Mandalorian Luke) and that debate is no longer relevant. He could easily be above Vader level by that point.
Originally posted by Galan007
It was the same in Legends, though, so it's not exactly a new concept. Logical or not, Luke was just that much of a prodigy.If you want to try and consolidate it in new canon, then you could go the whole "darkness rises and light to meet it" route(ie. Luke was essentially a tool of the Cosmic Force itself.) Couple that with Luke's asinine potential(which Palpatine himself indicated was on par with Anakin's), and it could also help account for his growth by RotJ... Aside from the training he had undergone by then, obvs.
Grogu was in the Jedi Temple during TCW/Order 66, so I wouldn't be surprised if he and R2 had met at some point. /shrug
I'm convinced Vader's heart wasn't really in it by then anyway. That can count for a lot when we know Luke was basically fighting to save the Rebels from the Empire.
Originally posted by -Pr-It could certainly be revealed in upcoming material that Vader was emotionally compromised when he and Luke fought in RotJ, but as of now, nothing directly states that to be the case. All we know is that they weren't overtly trying to kill each other initially(Vader was still trying to turn Luke to the dark side, while Luke was trying to bring Vader back into the light), but their power/skill were still stated to be equal at the time.
I'm convinced Vader's heart wasn't really in it by then anyway. That can count for a lot when we know Luke was basically fighting to save the Rebels from the Empire.
...Except for the brief moment where Luke tapped into the dark side after Vader's "sissster" prodding. Dark side Luke was resoundingly > Vader, but that's neither here nor there.
Originally posted by Galan007
It could certainly be revealed in upcoming material that Vader was emotionally compromised when he and Luke fought in RotJ, but as of now, nothing directly states that to be the case. All we know is that they weren't overtly trying to kill each other initially(Vader was still trying to turn Luke to the dark side, while Luke was trying to bring Vader back into the light), but their power/skill were still stated to be equal at the time....Except for the brief moment where Luke tapped into the dark side after Vader's "sissster" prodding. Dark side Luke was resoundingly > Vader, but that's neither here nor there.
Honestly, I put a lot of stock in Vader's "it's too late for me" line to Luke.
I'm not saying he didn't try at all, but I don't think he was the same Vader we saw in ESB.
Originally posted by Galan007
It was the same in Legends, though, so it's not exactly a new concept. Logical or not, Luke was just that much of a prodigy.
Actually that wasnt Lucas vision. And his word took priority in the days of Legends. He outright stated Luke was half trained as of ROTJ and not on Vaders level yet.
Also bear in mind Luke only just became a Knight in ROTJ. So putting him on early Clone Wars Anakin level would be generous enough. But Vader level is kind of a ridiculous leap for a fresh Knight.
The whole cosmic balance thing could explain why Luke is able to defeat Vader, (think thats what Freddie Prince was ranting on about once when defending the sequels) but would not put his skills and mastery on his level. Otherwise they wouldnt need any training, just rely on the cosmic force.