Originally posted by Emperordmb
[b]WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING!!!!!! [/B]
Anti-gun NY Gov. Cuomo rips Trump, officials over massacre: ‘You were elected to lead—do something’
Spoiler alert: Cuomo, an elected official himself, gives NO actual measures that should be taken. All he says is "you need to lead" and "DO SOMETHING!!"
Get how he signed his open letter to Trump:
Andrew M. Cuomo
Father of Cara, Mariah and Michaela
Taxpayer
Governor of New York
NRA "F" Rated Elected Official
LMFAO. "Taxwaster" would have been more accurate, and lol@ touting his NRA rating. Gee what does the NRA have to do with this? And why is this elected official, governor of New York...allowed to pass the buck on guns? "DO SOMETHING" is what some fat feminist in a p*ssy hat should be screaming, not an elected official.
Why is it people feel it's up to Trump and Trump alone to solve gun crime? Lol. They never expected that of Obama, weird. I did not see the media go and blame Obama over every school shooting under his watch. But you know the reason they will give: he couldn't do anything cuz republicans.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
none obvs, nothing we can do. see you at the next shooting
It's a good thing this comment of yours isn't sarcasm. Cuz you'd just come off like a little weasel for not providing any solutions, and if you were being sarcastic you clearly feel there are solutions.
So yeah, good thing it wasn't sarcasm.
You're clearly upset Surt so I'll throw you a bone.
The governor said the suspect used a shotgun and a .38 revolver in the attack on his school. "Both of these weapons were obtained by the shooter from his father," he said, adding that the father legally owned them.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/18/texas-school-shooting-santa-fe-high
Section 131L. (a) It shall be unlawful to store or keep any firearm, rifle or shotgun including, but not limited to, large capacity weapons, or machine gun in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user. For purposes of this section, such weapon shall not be deemed stored or kept if carried by or under the control of the owner or other lawfully authorized user.https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131L
How about America starts by making this federal law?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
You're clearly upset Surt so I'll throw you a bone.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/18/texas-school-shooting-santa-fe-highhttps://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131L
How about America starts by making this federal law?
Awesome! And if someones home is broken into and they die because they couldn't get to their firearm in time because they were forced to keep it in a locked container, what do you say then kiddo?
Aaaaaand if they lock it up and one of their kids finds the key, and unlocks it and uses the gun....? Will that not be whined about by leftists?
Look at this little man. I suggest gun legislation already in effect in multiple states across America and he throws a fit.
Your animosity towards a solution is noted.
Now, do you think it’s an acceptable state of affairs for minors to be unlawfully able to aquire firearms stored in their parents homes? Are you aware of the current body count in regards to accidental firearm deaths that involve children?
If someone breaks into your home and you can’t get to your gun there are measures you can take to protect yourself, namely: call the police, lock yourself in a room, get out of the house, seek help from neighbors etc. Moreover steps can be taken to ensure the security of your home in the first place e.g. installing locks and a burgular alarm - measures that fall within the realm of personal responsibility. And beyond that properly funded law enforcement whose job it is to reduce crime and keep your neighbourhood safe.
Comparatively speaking, the checks and balances in place to prevent a minor accessing an unsecurely stored firearm are minimal, already causes hundreds of deaths a year, and has been a primary factor in many mass shootings. It prioritises personal safety at the expense of the safety of those around you, including your family, your neighbours, and of course the school your kid attends, and in that respect counter intuitive to the objective of owning a gun to keep your home safe.
But maybe try some what-iffery about a quadriplegic grandma who doesn’t know how to use a phone, that’ll #gettem.
I simply think people have lost their right to the second amendment—all amendments really:
"we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
- John Adams
I think DMB is too much of an idealist, but what he says about the erosion of moral character, family-structure, etc is true. I personally don't think there is anything wrong about it, but when power is meant to be distributed among the citizens of a country, it certainly requires good judgment and character.
The father of the shooter obviously failed to secure his firearms. If the kid knew the combination to the safe, that doesn't excuse this. I'd like to see very strict laws put into place which severely reprimand (I'm talking jail time) those who fail to adequately secure their firearms. If you whine about home defense being compromised then you can keep it on your person—maybe one of those locking police holsters could come into play.
Right now only 11 states require that stolen guns are reported to the police—absurd.
Originally posted by KurkI want to hear a reasonable argument why a new prohibition shouldn't be enacted (saying it didn't work in the past isn't one btw).
Because chain smokers and alcoholism also go hand in hand with the greatest of humans.
That, and drugs.
I mean, just look at Tiger Woods and the older golfers. They all party all night long, perform with hangovers, and get remembered as legends. Tiger, he's straight laced, never touch's a drop, and will be remembered as cheating on his wife.
A man NEEDS his vices, or eventually all that pent up self repression comes out in the worst ways.
Originally posted by cdtm
A man NEEDS his vices, or eventually all that pent up self repression comes out in the worst ways.
Right...it comes out forms of violent acts LOL
86 percent of homicides will be committed by individuals
under the influence.
40 percent of child abuse incidents will be connected to alcohol use or abuse, and 70 percent of these abusive individuals (parents or guardians) will suffer from a substance use disorder.
37 percent of rapes and sexual assaults will involve offenders under the influence, and that number jumps to 90 percent when the abuses occur on college campuses.
15 percent of robberies, 27 percent of aggravated assaults and 25 percent of simple assaults will be carried out by individuals who’ve been drinking and are likely under the influence. This amounts to more than 2.5 million incidents of alcohol-related violence.
65 percent of intimate partner violence incidents will be carried out by perpetrators who’ve been drinking. This equates to more than 450,000 such incidents annually.
20 percent of intimate partner violence incidents involving alcohol will include the use of a gun, knife, or other potentially lethal weapons.
95 percent of violent crimes committed on college campuses will involve alcohol, and the total number of such assaults will be greater than 600,000.
118,000 incidents of family violence (spouses and partners excluded) will be linked to excessive drinking, as will 744,000 incidents of violence that involve acquaintances.
Nearly 60 percent of violent crime victims will end up with injuries, with men being twice as likely to sustain major injuries as women.
Overall, about 40 percent of all violent crimes will be alcohol-related.
- https://addictionresource.com/alcohol/effects/alcohol-related-crimes/
Any reason why people feel the need to have to drink their woes away?
Alcohol actually makes people chronically unhappy in the long run. It lowers serotonin levels which is correlated to impulsive, aggressive behaviors in both animals and humans:
"Serotonin's influence over aggressive tendencies goes way back in the evolution of life. Studies over a wide range of species, from crustaceans to fish to lizards to hamsters to mice to dogs to nonhuman primates to human beings, have all demonstrated essentially the same results: reducing serotonergic activity leads to increases in aggressive behavior, and enhancing serotonergic function decreases aggressive behavior.
Alcohol not only lowers serotonin levels over the long run, but also increases levels of the stress hormone Cortisol:
[/i]"Recent studies have shown that heavy drinking or long term drinking stresses the body and causes it to have higher levels of the stress hormone, cortisol. Cortisol is necessary in short term stress situations because it helps focus alertness and attention, but cortisol also suppresses bodily functions such as wound repair, bone growth, digestion, and reproduction. Chronically high cortisol levels therefore interfere with these important processes in the body. Alcohol use also depletes the body of vitamin B6 and folic acid, which the body needs to help cope with stress. Long-term exposure to alcohol reduces the levels of the GABA-benzodiazepine receptor in the central nervous system and reduces the brain’s ability to calm the mind and the body and cope with anxiety in the long run.
Serotonin is a chemical in the body which is needed for memory, learning, and especially for feelings of ‘wellbeing”. Drinking alcohol can temporarily boost serotonin levels, therefore making you feel happier, but in the long term, excess alcohol can actually lower serotonin levels, and therefore either causing or exacerbating depression."[i]
https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/negative-effects-alcohol-anxiety/
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Look at this little man. I suggest gun legislation already in effect in multiple states across America and he throws a fit.Your animosity towards a solution is noted.
Now, do you think it’s an acceptable state of affairs for minors to be unlawfully able to aquire firearms stored in their parents homes? Are you aware of the current body count in regards to accidental firearm deaths that involve children?
If someone breaks into your home and you can’t get to your gun there are measures you can take to protect yourself, namely: call the police, lock yourself in a room, get out of the house, seek help from neighbors etc. Moreover steps can be taken to ensure the security of your home in the first place e.g. installing locks and a burgular alarm - measures that fall within the realm of personal responsibility. And beyond that properly funded law enforcement whose job it is to reduce crime and keep your neighbourhood safe.
Comparatively speaking, the checks and balances in place to prevent a minor accessing an unsecurely stored firearm are minimal, already causes hundreds of deaths a year, and has been a primary factor in many mass shootings. It prioritises personal safety at the expense of the safety of those around you, including your family, your neighbours, and of course the school your kid attends, and in that respect counter intuitive to the objective of owning a gun to keep your home safe.
But maybe try some what-iffery about a quadriplegic grandma who doesn’t know how to use a phone, that’ll #gettem.
*yawn* Once again needing to resort to a "you mad" claim. Do better.
Originally posted by Silent Master
He's an elected official, why doesn't he do something?
Are you talking about Trump? Because he's doing exactly what the president should be doing and that's upholding the law. Congress is the ones that write laws into being.
If you're referring to Gov. Cuomo, he's virtue signaling.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131LHow about America starts by making this federal law?
How do you propose to enforce this measure 24/7?