Originally posted by ESB -1138With strong deterrents to begin with as in Massachusetts i.e.
How do you propose to enforce this measure 24/7?
(b) A violation of this section shall be punished, in the case of a firearm, rifle or shotgun that is not a large capacity weapon, by a fine of not less than $1000 nor more than $7,500 or by imprisonment for not more than 11/2 years or by both such fine and imprisonment and, in the case of a large capacity weapon or machine gun, by a fine of not less than $2,000 nor more than $15,000 or by imprisonment for not less than 11/2 years nor more than 12 years or by both such fine and imprisonment.Coupled with random annual inspections or something similar as is done in Japan. Individuals may still attempt to get with evading the law but most aren't going risk a $7,500 fine and/or jail time.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Interesting. I noted that your increase in blood pressure the post before and this didn't stop you from responding, why are you having trouble now?
You gave BS reasons. "Lock yourself in a room and call police!".
Doesn't help if the people breaking in are armed. Stop with your nonsense.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
With strong deterrents to begin with as in Massachusetts i.e.Coupled with random annual inspections or something similar as is done in Japan. Individuals may still attempt to get with evading the law but most aren't going risk a $7,500 fine and/or jail time.
Annual inspection? What about the other 364 days? Or if the kid finds where the key is? What would you say is the appropriate rights vs. Risk ratio there is because there is the matter of the 4th amendment. Just curious to hear your take on these questions. That's all.
Kurk, that's a result of repression and binging. It's why Japanese have such weird fetish's.
Time was, drinking and smoking on the job was the norm. Drug use was absolutely normal in the 60's/70's.
Life is suffering. A society that accepts vices to take the edge off is a happy society.
This "work yourself to death, overachieve, stay clean" society is a very sick society. It expects far too much of people, it's no wonder some break.
Originally posted by cdtm
Kurk, that's a result of repression and binging. It's why Japanese have such weird fetish's.Time was, drinking and smoking on the job was the norm. Drug use was absolutely normal in the 60's/70's.
Life is suffering. A society that accepts vices to take the edge off is a happy society.
This "work yourself to death, overachieve, stay clean" society is a very sick society. It expects far too much of people, it's no wonder some break.
Is that why Japan has such a High Suicide Rate?
Originally posted by ESB -1138Like I said:
Annual inspection? What about the other 364 days?
Individuals may still attempt to get with evading the law but most aren't going risk a $7,500 fine and/or jail time.A random inspection can't be predicted by the gun owner, therefore if they are not complying with safe storage laws at any given time, they are running serious risk of incurring jail time or a fine. Most people won't take that chance.
Or if the kid finds where the key is?Store the key where the kid won't find it, or invest in a keypad.
What would you say is the appropriate rights vs. Risk ratio there is because there is the matter of the 4th amendment. Just curious to hear your take on these questions. That's all.I wouldn't say inspecting your firearms constitutes search and seizure. And I wouldn't say its acceptable for police to enter your home if you're not present.
Originally posted by SurturIf the person breaking in is armed one of the worse things you can do is confront them with a weapon lmfao, they want your stuff, not your life, and are highly unlikely to use their gun unless provoked. In that respect yes, locking yourself in a room, getting out of the house, and calling the police are viable options, and is what any police officer would recommend, you moron.
You gave BS reasons. "Lock yourself in a room and call police!".Doesn't help if the people breaking in are armed. Stop with your nonsense.
Originally posted by Surtur
Awesome! And if someones home is broken into and they die because they couldn't get to their firearm in time because they were forced to keep it in a locked container, what do you say then kiddo?Aaaaaand if they lock it up and one of their kids finds the key, and unlocks it and uses the gun....? Will that not be whined about by leftists?
What if I was in the shower when the murderer broke into my house? Should I take my gun to the shower?
What if he pulls a Han Solo and shoots first?
What if he's wearing a bulletproof vest?
What if he's not actually a human being, but an Eldritch monster that disguised itself meticulously as one of our kin in order to eat our brains?
Originally posted by MythLord
Why is it that most pro-gun arguments are completely made up of reaching What-If scenarios?What if I was in the shower when the murderer broke into my house? Should I take my gun to the shower?
What if he pulls a Han Solo and shoots first?
What if he's wearing a bulletproof vest?
What if he's not actually a human being, but an Eldritch monster that disguised itself meticulously as one of our kin in order to eat our brains?
People get guns exactly for the "what if" scenarios though. "What if something happens to me or my family?"
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm all for gun rights, but most teachers don't exactly seem reliable for this sort of thing.Hell, I can't even hit someone at point blank range in six shots with a paintball gun. Put a live firearm in my hands, I'm more apt to hit the walls and any kids cowering there, then the gunman..
I don't think anyone wants to force teachers to arm up. It's all about if qualified gun owners who happen to be teachers should be able to if they have all necessary permits for the weapon.
I wouldn't be opposed to saying "if a teacher wants to carry they need to take some gun training course".
One would hope that if you were a teacher and were lousy with a gun you would not decide "I'm gonna pack heat at school".
Sometimes when feelings doesn't work Surter that a person trys logic and contributes to honesty.
This proves to an individual that what matters most is being heard mostly with kindness. Much like the world heard God at miricals that it could use one now just like those who have died matter when we are long gone.