Originally posted by Firefly218
Make possession of a dangerous weapon a serious penalty and clamp down on all sources of illicit weaponry. These are military grade weapons right, so I’m pretty sure the government has a good handle on manufacturers and distribution.Just make it extremely difficult, extremely expensive and a federal offense to acquire these guns. That will almost definitely prevent the casual mentally ill teenager from getting access to an AR-15 and slaughtering 17 children.
Stop looking at this through the lens of a mass shooting. Most gun deaths are not caused by rifles and then leftists see mass shootings with them and flip out.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm British so I'm tragically ignorant on guns, but my understanding is that rifles are more deadly than pistols and can fire quicker.
You stupid UK idiot, all guns are just as deadly, so there's no point in banning one and not another. It's why say the US Marine's primary weapons are a .22 six-shooter and a single-shot shotgun. Duh!
Originally posted by jaden101
At the risk of repeating myself at promoting technological solutions. I keep seeing the "people being killed by/in cars" argument and the "why don't we ban cars?" statement.Yes, people die in cars and from being hit by cars. We didn't ban cars. We didn't even ban the fastest cars. We did, however, introduce speed limits on roads, seat belts, air bags, anti lock brakes, crumple zones, collision detection systems, headlamps, windscreen wipers, head cushions, tyre technology for bad weather etc etc all in order to make cars safer for the owners and for other road users and pedestrians.
So again, how about some technologies to help prevent nutters from gunning down innocent people as opposed to stopping people from owning guns.
Anybody?
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm British so I'm tragically ignorant on guns, but my understanding is that rifles are more deadly than pistols and can fire quicker.
On average, rifles are only deadlier in the sense that they are more accurate over long distances However, most mass shootings take place well within a handguns effective range and IMO handguns are far more effective for indoor and close range combat.
Originally posted by Firefly218
I’m for banning any weaponry that can be used by civilians to inflict mass death. Handguns or rifles, doesn’t matter. I think you knew that and were characteristically being petty.
You specifically stated rifles, I can quote your orignal post. or you could drop the lie.
Originally posted by SurturAnd most tradgedies are not caused by Islamic extremists crashing planes into towers, but we still clamped down on that right? Or at least are trying to.
Stop looking at this through the lens of a mass shooting. Most gun deaths are not caused by rifles and then leftists see mass shootings with them and flip out.
To the idea of banning semi-automatic rifles... are you delusional? IIRC when Australia tried something similar it was only able to confiscate like 1/3 of the guns it set out to confiscate... it'd do absolutely nothing to the vast vast majority of gun homicides not caused by these weapons and wouldn't even be close to successful at confiscating all of the semi-automatic rifles.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
To the idea of banning semi-automatic rifles... are you delusional? IIRC when Australia tried something similar it was only able to confiscate like 1/3 of the guns it set out to confiscate... it'd do absolutely nothing to the vast vast majority of gun homicides not caused by these weapons and wouldn't even be close to successful at confiscating all of the semi-automatic rifles.
Um, didn't Australia's mass shootings drop significantly after they upped their gun laws?
Originally posted by jaden101
Anybody?
I wouldn't expect a rebuttal since what you said is pretty much unassailable. But as long as the NRA can bribe politicians directly theres no chance of gun reform happening. You couldn't even get rid of bump stocks. Massacres will continue as long as those in power are getting paid to do nothing about it.
i think it's apples to oranges, jaden. unless all gun manufacturers are made to agree on some added tech safety protocol in manufacturing, there is no way to safely regulate guns as with automobiles.
for one thing, in the u.s. driving is not a right, but a privilege. i imagine it would have been much more difficult to enforce airbag regulations or even seatbelts if driving was considered a right.