Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The shooter has been identified as Anderson Lee Aldrich, the 22-year-old grandson of outgoing Republican State Assemblymember Randy Voepel.Voepel represents the 71st district in San Diego. There were calls to expel Voepel from the state Assembly after he made comments praising the January 6th attacks, and comparing them to the Revolutionary War.
Aldrich was arrested in 2021 after his mother reported to police he was threatening to harm her with a homemade bomb and multiple weapons, according to the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He was arrested after a lengthy standoff in which 10 neighborhood homes had to be evacuated, and he was charged with six felonies.
However, records show that he was not prosecuted, and the El Paso County district attorney would not comment on why his case was dropped.
Leslie Bowman confirmed that the 2021 standoff with Anderson occurred at her home, because she was renting a spare room to his mother, Laura Voepel.
"His mom had called me and said, 'Don't come home right now, there are some people looking for Andy.' After that initial day, police never reached out to me for additional information. Why is he not in jail, after that happening? For him to be out there, and have access to weapons after that incident, I don't understand it.”
Club Q promoted an "All Ages Musical Drag Bruch" on Facebook the day of the mass shooting, but authorities said they are still investigating whether it was a hate crime.
So the son and grandson of right-wing extremists, with a history of terroristic threats, murders five gay people and injuries 25 others in a mass shooting at the only gay bar in Colorado Springs, after right-wing media and right-wing politicians have been labeling gay people child predators, and the police are still not sure if it is a hate crime.
But there were sure to let him off the hook when his neighborhood had to be evacuated, because he was holding his mother hostage with multiple firearms and a bomb, because he is a good Christian, and his grandfather is a conservative Republican official.
Oh, he is also a fat piece of shit. That is him in the red shorts in the terrorist family photo:
You do not even have to guess any more. They are exactly who you think they are every single time.
vile garbage-humans
Originally posted by Smurphnever after Kyle Rittenhouse...
He's 22. Police have released his name but not his photo and haven't yet commented on motive.But the place was called Club Q. You only shoot up that place if you're intending to kill a bunch of queer people. Maybe cdtm will argue that simply selecting that bar doesn't establish hate - maybe the shooter randomly picked a bar - but either way, his intention when he crossed the threshold in body armor was to kill gay people.
Not sure how much difference exists between being randomly selected for mass murder and being intentionally selected.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEbut Kyle Rittenhouse was innocent, this kid is being framed surely!
The shooter has been identified as Anderson Lee Aldrich, the 22-year-old grandson of outgoing Republican State Assemblymember Randy Voepel.Voepel represents the 71st district in San Diego. There were calls to expel Voepel from the state Assembly after he made comments praising the January 6th attacks, and comparing them to the Revolutionary War.
Aldrich was arrested in 2021 after his mother reported to police he was threatening to harm her with a homemade bomb and multiple weapons, according to the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He was arrested after a lengthy standoff in which 10 neighborhood homes had to be evacuated, and he was charged with six felonies.
However, records show that he was not prosecuted, and the El Paso County district attorney would not comment on why his case was dropped.
Leslie Bowman confirmed that the 2021 standoff with Anderson occurred at her home, because she was renting a spare room to his mother, Laura Voepel.
"His mom had called me and said, 'Don't come home right now, there are some people looking for Andy.' After that initial day, police never reached out to me for additional information. Why is he not in jail, after that happening? For him to be out there, and have access to weapons after that incident, I don't understand it.”
Club Q promoted an "All Ages Musical Drag Bruch" on Facebook the day of the mass shooting, but authorities said they are still investigating whether it was a hate crime.
So the son and grandson of right-wing extremists, with a history of terroristic threats, murders five gay people and injuries 25 others in a mass shooting at the only gay bar in Colorado Springs, after right-wing media and right-wing politicians have been labeling gay people child predators, and the police are still not sure if it is a hate crime.
But there were sure to let him off the hook when his neighborhood had to be evacuated, because he was holding his mother hostage with multiple firearms and a bomb, because he is a good Christian, and his grandfather is a conservative Republican official.
Oh, he is also a fat piece of shit. That is him in the red shorts in the terrorist family photo:
You do not even have to guess any more. They are exactly who you think they are every single time.
Originally posted by Smurph
He's 22. Police have released his name but not his photo and haven't yet commented on motive.But the place was called Club Q. You only shoot up that place if you're intending to kill a bunch of queer people. Maybe cdtm will argue that simply selecting that bar doesn't establish hate - maybe the shooter randomly picked a bar - but either way, his intention when he crossed the threshold in body armor was to kill gay people.
Not sure how much difference exists between being randomly selected for mass murder and being intentionally selected.
Have you forgotten when that black man shot up an asian massage and they dragged their feet on "hate crime"?
Did you not see the recent news of a synagogue hate crime being committed by a jewish man, and this man's lawyer arguing a jewish man who lives with his holocaust survivor grandfather can't possibly have committed a hate crime against jews?
Where do you even get all the straw for your straw men? Why would I argue against a gay bar being shot up being a likely hate crime, when occam's razor says it most likely.
I would not argue this is probably a hate crime. I would sooner argue against hate crimes as a concept, which I think are bullshit definitions, because what does it matter why you're a murderous *******? As if there are different tiers of death and murder, and a random act of violence is better for society then a targeted one.
But that is for another topic.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
never after Kyle Rittenhouse...
Oh come off it.
Rittenhouse was actively chased while fleeing a pack of assholes, one of whom was suicidal and shouldn't have been there at all. No jury in the world would convict soneone who did everything in their power to flee, and only attacked when his life was in danger.
From Quora:
If a police officer is in a firefight, can you legally assist them with your own weapon with no legal backlash?
There’ve been occasions where this has happened.During the Texas Tower Sniper incident in 1966, three men found themselves on top of the roof with the sniper, Charles Whitman. Two, Ramiro Martinez and Houston McCoy, were Austin police officers. The third was a civilian, Allen Crum, who’d been handed a rifle by an unknown party, and, with police, made his way up to the top floor, and, ultimately, to the roof with the two of the officers.
When Martinez realized Crum, though a retired soldier, and thus familiar with firearms, wasn’t a cop of some kind, he deputized him.
Together, the three took out the sniper. They all received decorations for valor.
But before any of this happened, dozens of civilians loaded their hunting rifles into their cars and made their way down to the campus, to support the officers on the ground who were trying to get at Whitman with nothing but shotguns and revolvers.
The high-powered hunting rifles, some with telescopic sights, that the civilians brought to the fight, had the reach that the police weapons did not. The consequence of being subjected to more accurate fire by the civilians was that Whitman didn’t have time to take careful aim with the high-powered bolt action rifle that had been his main weapon to that point. He switched to a semi-auto carbine, and popped up now and then to “spray and pray,” but did not hit another target from that point.
Arguably, it was the arrival of those armed citizens with their high-powered rifles that kept Whitman from delivering any more fatal shots that day.
Originally posted by cdtm
I would sooner argue against hate crimes as a concept, which I think are bullshit definitions, because what does it matter why you're a murderous *******? As if there are different tiers of death and murder, and a random act of violence is better for society then a targeted one.
Interesting.
Would you keep that stance when the terror crime is done by a Muslim/Arab?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The shooter has been identified as Anderson Lee Aldrich, the 22-year-old grandson of outgoing Republican State Assemblymember Randy Voepel.Voepel represents the 71st district in San Diego. There were calls to expel Voepel from the state Assembly after he made comments praising the January 6th attacks, and comparing them to the Revolutionary War.
Aldrich was arrested in 2021 after his mother reported to police he was threatening to harm her with a homemade bomb and multiple weapons, according to the El Paso County Sheriff's Office.
He was arrested after a lengthy standoff in which 10 neighborhood homes had to be evacuated, and he was charged with six felonies.
However, records show that he was not prosecuted, and the El Paso County district attorney would not comment on why his case was dropped.
Leslie Bowman confirmed that the 2021 standoff with Anderson occurred at her home, because she was renting a spare room to his mother, Laura Voepel.
"His mom had called me and said, 'Don't come home right now, there are some people looking for Andy.' After that initial day, police never reached out to me for additional information. Why is he not in jail, after that happening? For him to be out there, and have access to weapons after that incident, I don't understand it.”
Club Q promoted an "All Ages Musical Drag Bruch" on Facebook the day of the mass shooting, but authorities said they are still investigating whether it was a hate crime.
So the son and grandson of right-wing extremists, with a history of terroristic threats, murders five gay people and injuries 25 others in a mass shooting at the only gay bar in Colorado Springs, after right-wing media and right-wing politicians have been labeling gay people child predators, and the police are still not sure if it is a hate crime.
But there were sure to let him off the hook when his neighborhood had to be evacuated, because he was holding his mother hostage with multiple firearms and a bomb, because he is a good Christian, and his grandfather is a conservative Republican official.
Oh, he is also a fat piece of shit. That is him in the red shorts in the terrorist family photo:
You do not even have to guess any more. They are exactly who you think they are every single time.
So another Rightist terrorist attack
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Interesting.Would you keep that stance when the terror crime is done by a Muslim/Arab?
Absolutely yes 100%.
You didn't ask me about profiling ftr, only about separate categories of charges. I'd assume you're also against that. 🙂
But seriously, why isn't murder enough? Hate is a feeling, murder is an act. I don't care WHY one murders, only that they did.
There's also the philosophy of two people being killed, and one resulting in less severe consequences all due to subjective social issues of race, gender, sex ect. It's unfair to the victim who doesn't get those checkmarks of "hate".
Originally posted by Robtard
Seems an unarmed club patron was able to take down this AR1-15 wielding terrorist. What was the Uvalde's police department excuse again?This degenerate was also in an armed standoff with police in 2021 due to ranting about bomb threats. So the police were well aware of him.
A straight guy, a gay guy, and a drag queen beat him within an inch of his life. Evidently, it was so bad that responders thought they had killed him. They pinned him down, and punched and stomped his head and face. Police had not been able to question him, because he had been hospitalized.
Originally posted by Robtard
Seems an unarmed club patron was able to take down this AR1-15 wielding terrorist. What was the Uvalde's police department excuse again?
You'll remember the same thing happened at Virginia Tech. Schools are pretty open, walking in and getting shot won't help anyone.
Sounds like the shooter of the club thought he was Rambo, and just walked in brandishing the gun, was just lucky a veteran and 2 other brave souls were in a position to understand what was happening and do something about it.