I just can't take some anti-Trumpers seriously though. They compare him to Hitler. They say "Herp derp Hitler didn't kill the Jews right away" if you bring up how Trump isn't...you know, gassing people and stuff.
Lol. How long did democracy last once Hitler took power? No, not a year lol. Like 5 months. Trump has been president over a year. He hasn't done anything like that.
People are retarded in how they come at him, at least most people.
Originally posted by BackFire
It's a surprisingly common and humorous argument."Well gun laws don't work, because then instead of guns they just use a knife".
Yeah, that's called an improvement. Sounds like gun control working to me.
How many "saturday night specials" are legally owned?
How many gang bangers have a permit?
Originally posted by darthgooberThen you're ****ed regardless of how many AR-15s you have stockpiled in your basement.
Forget Trump, what happens if someone who's actually got the charisma, intelligence, and mindset of Hitler ends up as president? You will have already made his job that much easier by disarming the public. I know you want to think that such a thing could never happen in a million years, but then again 6 years ago you prob thought the same thing about Trump getting elected.
Originally posted by BackFire
Unfortunately I tend to agree with darthgoober on this.I think if ever a president was sincerely going to attempt to take full control of the government in a totalitarian manner he would be slow and methodical about it and instill people in charge of the military that he knows would be subservient to him. In which case you'd have to rely on some low level soldiers to buck orders and overthrow not just the president but also the military leadership. In which case, I think most would just follow orders.
Then again, you guys were specifically talking about Trump doing this, which is probably the exception. If ever he did it, it would probably be on a whim without any planning and end up getting overthrown within 15 minutes by a white house intern.
If you want to go down that rabbit hole, it doesn't need to have started with Trump.
Or any president.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Then you're ****ed regardless of how many AR-15s you have stockpiled in your basement.
Pretty much
Originally posted by cdtm
Your "progress" comment.We can't even stop blatant criminals. There's no way we'll ever stop a determined, intelligent psychopath watching and waiting, if we can't stop the obvious problems.
People using saturday night specials or whatever homemade guns are called would still be a huge improvement over these people using AR 15 type weapons, much more likely they'd fail or screw up, or that they'd even have the ability to make them. If people were just making their own weapons all the time then the gun control in other countries wouldn't work - they do. So I'd still consider this huge progress.
As far illegally owned guns go, yes those wouldn't disappear overnight as there's already a ton of circulation, but illegal guns come from somewhere, they don't just materialize out of thin air, they were at some point made legally and purchased legally, but over time it would become more difficult to get guns illegally because the stockpile of illegal guns would diminish.
Lastly, a lot of gang bangers may have bought the guns legally for all we know. Even if they live in a state with strict gun laws, they could have just traveled a couple hours to a state with lenient gun laws and just brought it back. This is why if gun control is going to function at its full potential it needs to be done on a consistent national level and not vary so much state by state.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Then you're ****ed regardless of how many AR-15s you have stockpiled in your basement.