Originally posted by Bashar Teg
and there's another dilemma. what if the hired "good guy with a gun" is a coward?
IMO that's always in the back of my mind when so many people say they want to C&C or bring their weapons with them everywhere. Having the gun is one thing, being able to pull the trigger is another.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
and there's another dilemma. what if the hired "good guy with a gun" is a coward?
What about the FBI being cowards to detain this guy since they knew who he was and they knew he was high risk?
Blame lies at the feet of the FBI for this shooting, they knew, they did nothing.
Re: Re: Re: Mass Shootings in America Thread
Originally posted by Silent Master
Unfortunately I don't see the era of trigger warnings, safe spaces and participation trophies changing anytime soon.
They're part of the problem, though. 🙂
I'm not saying "everyone wins". I'm saying there should be some middle ground between "We like you" and "we hate you".
And there isn't. It's one or the other.
Social media is kind of proof of this..
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
and there's another dilemma. what if the hired "good guy with a gun" is a coward?
To me, a "good guy with a gun" is some random citizen who happens to be legally armed. This wasn't some janitor who just happened to be packing and did nothing, this was a deputy. The sheriff even comes out and said the deputy should have gone in and killed the suspect.
Law enforcement failed on pretty much every level it seems. We want more laws when we can't even enforce the ones we have or get people to do their jobs. From an article on the Blaze:
"The Miami Herald reports that a tipster called the Broward Sheriff’s Office warning them that Cruz “could be a school shooter in the making.” Deputies neglected to write up the warning in a report.
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Two weeks prior to that tip being called in, a relative of Cruz also told police that they should seize his weapons.
Astoundingly, a third report was missed when two years before the shooting a deputy investigated a warning about Cruz saying he “planned to shoot up the school.”
That tip was sent to the school’s resource office, and no action followed."
Originally posted by Blindside12
What about the FBI being cowards to detain this guy since they knew who he was and they knew he was high risk?Blame lies at the feet of the FBI for this shooting, they knew, they did nothing.
Also the townhall CNN thing was a disaster that more or less confirmed the worst fears of some gun owners in America. You know how there is that "they wanna take my guns!" cliche that those on the left say shows paranoia?
So during the townhall when Rubio is asked about reimposing a certain weapons ban and he says the law wouldn't really work and to have the desired effect we would have to ban every semi automatic rifle in America. The crowd then burst into cheers lol.
Some tried to paint that as Rubio owning himself, when in reality they have helped confirm some of the fears of law abiding gun owners now. Good job...I guess?
Originally posted by Surtur
To me, a "good guy with a gun" is some random citizen who happens to be legally armed. This wasn't some janitor who just happened to be packing and did nothing, this was a deputy. The sheriff even comes out and said the deputy should have gone in and killed the suspect.Law enforcement failed on pretty much every level it seems. We want more laws when we can't even enforce the ones we have or get people to do their jobs. From an article on the Blaze:
[b]"The Miami Herald reports that a tipster called the Broward Sheriff’s Office warning them that Cruz “could be a school shooter in the making.” Deputies neglected to write up the warning in a report.
Special: Overwhelmed by cryptocurrencies? Go here to learn how to play themTwo weeks prior to that tip being called in, a relative of Cruz also told police that they should seize his weapons.
Astoundingly, a third report was missed when two years before the shooting a deputy investigated a warning about Cruz saying he “planned to shoot up the school.”
That tip was sent to the school’s resource office, and no action followed."
[/B]
giving someone a pistol, and making them go to target practice is not military/police training, and i highly doubt that resources will be put into giving them that level of training. put all that resource into one or two guards who are qualified. plenty of ex military and retired cops out there to hire, i'm sure.
Question, if one bad person with a gun kills someone or does something ilegal with a gun, it makes the NRA, Conservatives, Gun Lobby look bad right?
So why isnt the same principle applied to illegal immigrants who kill people, and when that happens why dont the democrats, progressives and amnesty groups have to be accountable?
Originally posted by Blindside12
Question, if one bad person with a gun kills someone or does something ilegal with a gun, it makes the NRA, Conservatives, Gun Lobby look bad right?So why isnt the same principle applied to illegal immigrants who kill people, and when that happens why dont the democrats, progressives and amnesty groups have to be accountable?
They'll tell you it comes down to power dynamics. Punching up vs punching down.
It's why the star of Arrow got dogpiled for trying to be diplomatic:
This is also where 99.9% of my problems with the left come from. Stephen Amell certainly didn't do anything wrong, and the reasons given are simply rationalizing being able to get away with attacking someone for no reason (Does having power justify being attacked without cause?)
Originally posted by cdtm
They'll tell you it comes down to power dynamics. Punching up vs punching down.It's why the star of Arrow got dogpiled for trying to be diplomatic:
This is also where 99.9% of my problems with the left come from. Stephen Amell certainly didn't do anything wrong, and the reasons given are simply rationalizing being able to get away with attacking someone for no reason (Does having power justify being attacked without cause?)
So no real answer, just rhetoric from them on this question?