Originally posted by Bashar Teg
oh shit an off-topic loaded question. it's been nice debating with you all but it looks like we have a winner. [/thread]
Its the exact same situation applied to a different belief system.
If NRA and conservatives are to blame for gun deaths, then progressives and the left are equally to blame when an illegal kills a 17 year old girl or anyone else for that matter.
Its the exact same standard applied to both situations.
^lol great post. So its even more an atrocity that the left lets illegal immigrants as a whole get a pass for killing our people but slams the people who have guns and work to uphold our actual constitution. Meanwhile the dems protect the people who are not even supposed to be here, who commit crimes, but dont even dare do a hashtag #stopillegalimmigration when they kill people.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I'm not, nor do I want to, compare back & forth statistics to prove that either one is right or wrong...that's not my style or interest in debating the issue of gun control or the lack off.I looked up the various articles too & a lot can be contradictory, depending on the source, depending on the agenda...so once again it's pointless throwing percentages & stats at each other.
The one thing I did come across was that about 30 000 firearms are imported into Australia every year. Mostly supplying both law enforcement & the military so 24 guns for every 100 people is a feasible number.
There is no back and forth. Those are the basic of basic facts. There's no agenda. #20 on the list of guns per capita at 24 per 100 is quite high relative to the rest of the world.
"Very few guns per person" is not an argument can make of Australia. That's just not true.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I'm just trying to say the average Australian does not resent not being able to readily & easily own a gun. The average Australian is grateful that gun violence isn't a factor in their daily lives. The average Australian can take their kids to school (or the park or the movies) & not worry about a crazed gunman.Personally, I've lived in the inner city for over 20 years. I'm surrounded by housing commission developments where crime & drugs are rampant. I've worked in the red light district for several years on the night shift & never once have I ever come across someone with a firearm or known any one to be threatened by one.
I've been burgled 3 times in 3 different locations. The police were prompt & professional. The real estate paid & installed better security in all three instances. My insurance policy compensated nicely for everything that was stolen. Never once did I think a gun was needed to protect mine or my own.
I'm just trying to say there is crime & violence in Australia but the least of my worries is my son or his classmates getting shot at school.
I have faith in our strict laws towards gun control.
Mass shootings, every day gun related crime & deaths should not be considered either common or acceptable in any society.
But...the homicide rates were unchanged by your ultra strict gun laws. It actually got worse, years later. You're confusing gun violence with total violence. Your gun laws did not help. It is irrelevant, actually, to slightly negative on your homicide rates.
While you're taking comfort in your ultra strict gun laws from 1996, you have an incorrect perception of what is actually taking place. The data does not match your trust in your gun laws. It is misplaced. This was my point. It's great that you are safer than the US.
Oh, Little Rubio...
YouTube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcab2XkeKDQ
The face he makes is hilarious.
Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, Little Rubio...YouTube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcab2XkeKDQThe face he makes is hilarious.
America has descended into society of grandstanding gotcha questions which are based on the hot topic at the moment cheered on by the sheep who dont know much about anything they are cheering on simply because someone "said something that sounds good."
Its fcking pathetic honestly how dumb it has become.
Originally posted by Blindside12
Clearly this is Rubios fault, not the FBI who knew a month ahead of time or the sheriffs officer who did nothing on the scene for 5 minutes.
Yes. That is exactly what I was saying. In fact, he personalty coached the Parkland shooter and likely the LV shooter as well.
I wasnt talking about you, Im talking about the dumb mob mentality of the crowd and how dumb this country is getting.
See below
Originally posted by Blindside12
America has descended into society of grandstanding gotcha questions which are based on the hot topic at the moment cheered on by the sheep who dont know much about anything they are cheering on simply because someone "said something that sounds good."Its fcking pathetic honestly how dumb it has become.
Originally posted by Robtard
Don't you worry, when the next shooting happens he can be shocked again at how stupid people are, over and over.
It's hard to tell given the stats some people are using and citing.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Are we talking about an actual school shooting? Or someone committing suicide via gun somewhere that used to be a school?It's hard to tell given the stats some people are using and citing.
Your edge has been noted. But another school (and other) mass shooting will happen, it's not "if", it's a matter of when; you realize that, right?
And what about when another illegal immigrant kills a person, this happens daily, why isnt that stopped? Why are you not concerned about that the same way you are about school shootings?
"According to the FBI, 67,642 murders were committed in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. The General Accounting Office documents that criminal immigrants committed 25,064 of these murders. "
Originally posted by Blindside12
And what about when another illegal immigrant kills a person, this happens daily, why isnt that stopped? Why are you not concerned about that the same way you are about school shootings?
I understand that you've replaced "but alcohol!" with "but illegals!" today as the deflection. Someone needs to inform Putinbot.
Maybe go make a thread? Or necro one the the threads you made before on illegal immigration?
Originally posted by Blindside12A weakness the top echelons of society should continue to exploit. I know I will 🙂 .
America has descended into society of grandstanding gotcha questions which are based on the hot topic at the moment cheered on by the sheep who dont know much about anything they are cheering on simply because someone "said something that sounds good."Its fcking pathetic honestly how dumb it has become.
Originally posted by Blindside12
As noted, my thread on alcohal has noting to do with guns, and I have not even spoken about guns in that thread, your deflection has been noted.Can you answer my question without trolling or deflecting?