Originally posted by Rockydonovang
ban bump stocks, forbid guns being passed from family member to family member without a background check.Also, mental health
HOW in the F-K would banning guns paased within the family prevent more shootings?
I only ask that because it would be SUPER hard to enforce, how would you enforce that policy that is transacted without witness?
Originally posted by snowdragonBecause it'll dissuade people from giving guns to their kids if they're told it's illegal.
HOW in the F-K would banning guns paased within the family prevent more shootings?I only ask that because it would be SUPER hard to enforce, how would you enforce that policy that is transacted without witness?
I'm aware many people will just ignore the law, but there will also be people who respect the law and will follow it.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Because it'll dissuade people from giving guns to their kids if they're told it's illegal.I'm aware many people will just ignore the law, but there will also be people who respect the law and will follow it.
Thats your solution to ending gun violence, banning guns from being passed down without a background check?>
Honestly thats some super naive mentality about the guns and how does that stop mass shootings?
Originally posted by snowdragon
HOW in the F-K would banning guns paased within the family prevent more shootings?I only ask that because it would be SUPER hard to enforce, how would you enforce that policy that is transacted without witness?
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Because it'll dissuade people from giving guns to their kids if they're told it's illegal.I'm aware many people will just ignore the law, but there will also be people who respect the law and will follow it.
It seems like making it more difficult for people who want to obey the law, to actually obey the law, is the perfect way to combat crimes committed by people who do not intend to obey the law?
Originally posted by dadudemonWhy are you assuming that people who give guns to family members as they are legally allowed to don't intend to obey the law?
It seems like making it more difficult for people who want to obey the law, to actually obey the law, is the perfect way to combat crimes committed by people who do not intend to obey the law?
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Why are you assuming that people who give guns to family members as they are legally allowed to don't intend to obey the law?
Just the opposite!
I assume the opposite with my question.
I'm asking why targeting the lawful with more difficult laws somehow addresses the unlawful?
Originally posted by snowdragon
Most killings occur from unlawful events, like 90% plus so how do we stop that rather then focus on the media driven 1%?
Also, do you want to cite me on this .1% stat you got?
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
You do realize that preventing accidentally caused gun death and intentionally caused gun death aren't mutually exclusive concepts?Also, do you want to cite me on this .1% stat you got?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides...505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm..."
505/11208 = .045 or 4.5%
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Why is it either or?You can address both.
Why would you not implement an easy solution while looking for other ones?
I TOTALLY agree with that 100% except what you propose isn't making an impact on mass shootings or deaths caused by shootings.
Perhaps the bumpstock that might but in reality what you propose isn't addressing the bigger picture, in actuality in regards to passing down guns in the family its not even something we can effectively track atm.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Why is it either or?You can address both.
Why would you not implement an easy solution while looking for other ones?
Oh, that's simple: because it's very ineffective at reducing any crime at all, costly to people, and very difficult to enforce. It's a waste of time, resources, and meddles in yet another facet of property rights.
Edit - In fact, it might increase the amount of criminals vis a vis inheritors.
Originally posted by dadudemon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States505/11208 = .045 or 4.5%
Right, now of that 4.5% how many were done with bump stocks or inherited guns that were given to people that wouldn't pass a background check?
Because his solutions were "ban bump stocks, forbid guns being passed from family member to family member without a background check."