DoJ investigating Harvard over Affirmative Action policies

Started by Afro Cheese11 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Affirmative action is good in theory, but poor in practice. As we had more qualified people left on the curb and positions filled by the less qualified and when it comes to jobs like the Police, Fire, Medical Emergency etc., you want the most qualified, regardless of their skin color.

But is Asians were not "minority enough", meaning there was no clear discrimination against them in the amount of courses/classes, then what exactly is there to be upset over.

There's the idea/suspicion that these universities are using a sort of "quota" system for racial groups since their racial ratios seem to remain largely constant while certain groups tend to score higher on average on the SATs etc. So Asians, being both statistically more likely to have a high IQ along with having a severe worth ethic in their culture tend to do very well in terms of academic institutions. So compared to the racial ratios of the general population, Asians are actually "overrepresented" in these institutions. But if it were a strict meritocracy, then their representation would be presumably even higher than it is. Meaning some highly qualified Asians (in some cases more qualified than some of their non-Asian peers who were accepted) are not let in because the ratio of Asians is considered to already be "high enough."

Originally posted by socool8520
So rich people have an advantage, but poor people are getting programs to help. Pretty much what I was saying. I liked the article by the way. Although the drop down menus kept throwing the text above the screen so I had to scroll up to read each point.

No one has responded to you, disagreeing with you, and I prefer to not summarize like you have (I prefer not to summarize and to actually directly use the 13 points). But if no one disagrees with you...

I can see it's time to break this out again for the clinically slow:

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I can see it's time to break this out again for the clinically slow:

Perfect, I have saved that Adam.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No one has responded to you, disagreeing with you, and I prefer to not summarize like you have (I prefer not to summarize and to actually directly use the 13 points). But if no one disagrees with you...

It's clear that people disagree with me. lol. The previous page or so would support that.

I summarized because I had already stated that being well off has its advantages, so there was really no point to push it again. It also stated that there were programs in place to help poorer families which I also stated, so I didn't want to push it again. Is there a specific point you found that you wanted to talk about?

My point has been that the best should get the nod regardless of status. I don't think it's right to give people a spot just because they are a minority, poor, or both.

I would strongly prefer America invest in fixing it's education system so that all people get better access to education rather than penalizing just for the sake of diversity.

Originally posted by socool8520
It's clear that people disagree with me. lol. The previous page or so would support that.

I summarized because I had already stated that being well off has its advantages, so there was really no point to push it again. It also stated that there were programs in place to help poorer families which I also stated, so I didn't want to push it again. Is there a specific point you found that you wanted to talk about?

My point has been that the best should get the nod regardless of status. I don't think it's right to give people a spot just because they are a minority, poor, or both.

I would strongly prefer America invest in fixing it's education system so that all people get better access to education rather than penalizing just for the sake of diversity.

Silly Rabbit.

ok

Anyways, in other news: affirmative action needs to go, immediately.

Originally posted by Surtur
Anyways, in other news: affirmative action needs to go, immediately.
Why are you worried Surt, you're never going to have to compete with anyone for a job.

Originally posted by Surtur
Anyways, in other news: affirmative action needs to go, immediately.

👆

Make education more affordable, and you may not need affirmative action. Roll like Germany and allocate our tax money into education so that tuition is extremely low, or free.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Why are you worried Surt, you're never going to have to compete with anyone for a job.
most things that make him chronically angry have zero impact on his life. hollywood, religions, job market, income tax, women, etc.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
most things that make him chronically angry have zero impact on his life. hollywood, religions, job market, income tax, women, etc.
Yeah, I agree with you Bash, so MANY things a normal person takes for granted, good and ill, are and will always be absent from his barren, lonely existence. Poor-poor Surt. bawling Oh, I just remembered I'm talking about Surtur 😮 My bad 😱 😂

Originally posted by socool8520
Make education more affordable, and you may not need affirmative action.

Doesn't the military give options for paying college tuitions in the USA?

Originally posted by socool8520
Make education more affordable, and you may not need affirmative action. Roll like Germany and allocate our tax money into education so that tuition is extremely low, or free.

Agreed.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Doesn't the military give options for paying college tuitions in the USA?

Yeah.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Doesn't the military give options for paying college tuitions in the USA?

Yeah, I tried to explain that there are options available, but people thought I was just downing on poor people like I was never poor myself or anything. lol

#SurvivalBias

that system has worked so well, why change it? poor people don't deserve any other avenue to success besides military service. don't like it? sorry kid. momma shoulda planned ahead!

Oh Bash, you're too funny.

What is wrong with military service?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
#SurvivalBias

that system has worked so well, why change it? poor people don't deserve any other avenue to success besides military service. don't like it? sorry kid. momma shoulda planned ahead!

Yeah it works for middle class folks too!

If your parents don't help plan for college then yeah, it is shame on the parents. Unless of course you believe those parents are just to simple to understand planning for the future.

It's not the solution but it is a viable solution and joining the military doesn't mean you tote a gun and fight in the trnches.