DoJ investigating Harvard over Affirmative Action policies

Started by Steve Zodiac11 pages

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i'm sorry, but they should have thought of all that before being born poor.
Damn, now you mention it that was inconsiderate of them to be poor and not want to kill people or be involved in killing people.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
So... someone who finds killing abhorrent especially for oil and land might not want to support a war machine which is killing for oil and land in any capacity. Just an idea.

That is a weak excuse as they are already supporting the military via taxes.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Did Siegal play a quiet talking badass marine cook in a movie? If so, that sounds disgustingly terribly entertaining movie.

Navy seal. Other than that, yeah pretty much dead on.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Remember Service means guaranteed citizenship! -Starship Troopers- film about a dystopian fascist state.

IIRC, Military service was the only way to become a citizen. Now apply that rule here and we'll see just how many of these 'let the poor go on and fight!' Chairborne Rangers agree.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That is a weak excuse as they are already supporting the military via taxes.

Well...there are a couple of options.

1. Be a citizen and protest immoral wars (many did and still do that) while also strongly lobbying/petitioning their representatives to end these immoral wars.

2. Being an active participant in an immoral war.

Some who were young and naive did #2 and realized it was terrible and came back and do #1. Some who despised #2 have always stuck to their convictions and done #2 to try and make a change.

I don't think it is a weak excuse. Unless they are hypocrites who are only keyboard warriors that whine about US Military actions but do absolutely nothing from #1.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And there's nothing wrong with pouring taxpayer money into colleges and raising the cost of other people's college for the non college educated working class? Seems kinda sketch.

Like how would this not raise taxes on the non-college educated working class for a service they aren’t the beneficiary of?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well...there are a couple of options.

1. Be a citizen and protest immoral wars (many did and still do that) while also strongly lobbying/petitioning their representatives to end these immoral wars.

2. Being an active participant in an immoral war.

Some who were young and naive did #2 and realized it was terrible and came back and do #1. Some who despised #2 have always stuck to their convictions and done #2 to try and make a change.

I don't think it is a weak excuse. Unless they are hypocrites who are only keyboard warriors that whine about US Military actions but do absolutely nothing from #1.

I'm about 90% positive that almost all of those giving that excuse fall under the "Keyboard warrior" label.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Did Siegal play a quiet talking badass marine cook in a movie? If so, that sounds disgustingly terribly entertaining movie.

He was, it was called "Live Free or Fry Hard".

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm about 90% positive that almost all of those giving that excuse fall under the "Keyboard warrior" label.
Come visit me in Riyadh, we'll pop to Sudan no weapons and I'll leave you for a day with a phone so you can ring me and I'll come and talk in Arabic to save your silly ass.

I've been to Saudi Arabia before and I didn't have any weapons.

Could somebody who loves poor people please explain to me how making college cheaper by subsidizing it more wont have some intended ill-effect on poor people by making low skilled workers have to pay more money for other people’s college?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've been to Saudi Arabia before and I didn't have any weapons.
Reading comprehension isn't your strong point is it. Most of Saudi is safe as houses most of the time, Sudan isn't. As I say we'll visit Sudan. 😉

Send me the money and I'll be happy to stop by, could use a vacation.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm about 90% positive that almost all of those giving that excuse fall under the "Keyboard warrior" label.

I tend to agree. 😄

colleges are adult day-care centers. I really want to drop out as I have no aspirations other than to become a dentist.

They are NOT adult daycare centers!!

Btw, if you spot a banana peel hanging in a tree feeling free to take the next week off to emotionally recover.

Originally posted by socool8520
^ I believe it's because they weren't minority enough for affirmative action to work in their favor since that's a thing now I guess. It's a legit complaint imo if their scores were better than the people admitted over them.

Aren't women and jewish also overrepresented?

Can you imagine the uproar trying to limit either group?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
YAY

I hope affirmative action gets overturned as a whole since it's a racially discriminatory piece of shit practice.


I also hope after they overturn it the government doesn't act like everything's done and they actually bother to address the fundamental issues which affirmative action was a symptom off.

Originally posted by socool8520
You'll have a 400 year waiting period I guess to make up for the invasion of the Native American lands to now.

Well you know, you have to actually make up for it first.

Simply not discriminating doesn't count as making up for the effects of discrimination.

If I put you in a hole, simply not digging the hole further isn't the same as taking you out of the hole.

Originally posted by socool8520
I disagree. Equality definitely means equal treatment. Poverty doesn't keep you from becoming educated. Your devotion or lack thereof is what determines whether you will succeed academically or not. .

That's utter bullsh!t. Poverty does keep you from getting educated, that's why poor people are generally much worse off than those born in rich backgrounds.

If poverty didn't impede your ability to learn, then there wouldn't be a difference between the educational success of the poor and the rich.

As Zodiac:
http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/may13/vol70/num08/How-Poverty-Affects-Classroom-Engagement.aspx

If poverty is negatively affecting student's ability to learn, that is, by definition, impeding them.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
No we won't, there'll still be complaints about institutional racism and shit and expectations of people to apologize for their white guilt.

No, it's not white guilt, it's government guilt. The government's decades of discrimination have left minorities disproportionally affected by the government's negligence and indirectly discriminant policies against the poor.

This has nothing to do with white people, this has to do with America fixing the mess it made.

And no, simply stopping the mess from being made bigger(though it has been made bigger by certain indirectly discriminant polices), is not the same as fixing the mess you made.

"White Guilt" is just a lazy deflection from the actual issues in our society.

Anyway Adam POE put this best:

Originally posted by Emperordmb
No we won't, there'll still be complaints about institutional racism and shit and expectations of people to apologize for their white guilt.

No, it's not white guilt, it's government guilt. The government's decades of discrimination have left minorities disproportionally affected by the government's negligence and indirectly discriminant policies against the poor.

This has nothing to do with white people, this has to do with America fixing the mess it made.

And no, simply stopping the mess from being made bigger(though it has been made bigger by certain indirectly discriminant polices), is not the same as fixing the mess you made.

"White guilt" is just a lazy deflection from actual systematic issues.

Anyway, Adam put it best:

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

^^Dude is fulla white guilt. Chump.