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Originally posted by Firefly218
Ahhhh, you dodged my question with more muddling tactics

Don’t be a hypocrite. Don’t accuse me of dodging when you’ve dodged me from my first post. Or have you answered “is this flipped script racist” question that I’ve repeatedly asked instead of deflecting constantly?

And how is this muddling? You’re doing exactly what I said you’re doing (saying X race deserves to be criticized more) while in the same page denying that you do so. This is nuts.

How can you no see it? I have posted it so clearly that it there no longer any denying it. Have you no self-awareness at all?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Don’t be a hypocrite. Don’t accuse me of dodging when you’ve dodged me from my first post. Or have you answered “is this flipped script racist” question that I’ve repeatedly asked instead of deflecting constantly?

And how is this muddling? You’re doing exactly what I said you’re doing (saying X race deserves to be criticized more) while in the same page denying that you do so. This is nuts.

How can you no see it? I have posted it so clearly that it there no longer any denying it. Have you no self-awareness at all?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
No, what he's saying is that if white induviduals are being criticized by the same standard as balck induviduals would be, they would naturally recieve more criticism, because there's more white people to criticize.

Criticism of a group needs to be proportional to the quantity of acts being commited, otherwise you're not criticing them as induviduals when they deserve it.

There are more powerful white people, hence there will be more powerful white people who do bad sh!t. Hencce their will be more actions by induviduals deserving of criticism. If white people recieved as much criticism as black people, that would mean that each powerful white induvidual doing bad stuff would recieve more criticism than each powerful black person doing bad stuff.

That would be unfair criticsm.

Error:

Hencce their will be more actions by induviduals deserving of criticism. If white people recieved as much criticism as black people, that would mean that each powerful white induvidual doing bad stuff would recieve less criticism than each powerful black person doing bad stuff.

5 blue marbles, 10 red marbles. 2 out of every 5 marbles get cracked. Which colored marbles is going to have more cracked marbles?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
No, what he's saying is that if white induviduals are being criticized by the same standard as balck induviduals would be, they would naturally recieve more criticism, because there's more white people to criticize.

Criticism of a group needs to be proportional to the quantity of acts being commited, otherwise you're not criticing them as induviduals when they deserve it.

There are more powerful white people, hence there will be more powerful white people who do bad sh!t. Hencce their will be more actions by induviduals deserving of criticism. If white people recieved as much criticism as black people, that would mean that each powerful white induvidual doing bad stuff would recieve more criticism than each powerful black person doing bad stuff.

That would be unfair criticsm.

You see, here’s the problem with your understanding of what my argument is.

Race as any kind of factor for criticism in any form is racist. It is stereotyping. Mild or not.

What you’re doing is using stats and numbers to -justify- said criticism/stereotyping/racism.

Justification of racism =/= absence of racism.

In there lies the disconnect.

Originally posted by Firefly218
This post sums up the argument. There's nothing more to say.

That’s cause you’re so in denial and too far gone to see where you fail.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
You see, here’s the problem with your understanding of what my argument is.

Race as any kind of factor for criticism in any form is racist. It is stereotyping. Mild or not.

What you’re doing is using stats and numbers to -justify- said criticism/stereotyping/racism.

Justification of racism =/= absence of racism.

In there lies the disconnect.

Originally posted by Firefly218
We all wish we could live in a post-racial world, but that's simply not the case. When there's such a stark disproportion in the representation of colored people, we have to shine a light on that.

Then don’t deny that you’re being racist. Whatever your intentions, if you feel it justified, don’t deny your own actions.

Have the guts to accept it and not swim in denial.

Originally posted by Firefly218
That's rather simplistic, much like yourself

The fact that you're too scared to answer is an answer in itself.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Then don’t deny that you’re being racist. Whatever your intentions, if you feel it justified, don’t deny your own actions.

Have the guts to accept it and not swim in denial.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Then don’t deny that you’re being racist. Whatever your intentions, if you feel it justified, don’t deny your own actions.

Have the guts to accept it and not swim in denial.

And here in lies the problem:

Race as any kind of factor for criticism in any form is racist. It is stereotyping. Mild or not.

Not once have me or firefly said any white person should be criticized for being white.

That's a strawman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The fact that you're too scared to answer is an answer in itself.

Your anger is also rather telling.

nib, please answer this question:

5 blue marbles, 10 red marbles. 2 out of every 5 marbles get cracked. Which colored marbles is going to have more cracked marbles?

Originally posted by Firefly218
Pointing out racial injustice is being racist? Pointing out that the policies established by the white ruling class are oppressing people of color is racist? Oh boy

That’s not what you did in our specific discussion. And you know it.

Keep deflecting.

If you don’t have the courage to admit what you do, when it’s so clearly spelled out, then you’re obviously not mature to understand. You clearly have some growing up to do.

/shrug

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your anger is also rather telling.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
And here in lies the problem:

Nobody ever said anything about critquing people on the basis of their race.

Not once have me or firefly said any white person should be criticized for being white.

That's a strawman.

Nah, it's not a strawman. He made a really damn good point.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
That’s not what you did in our specific discussion. And you know it.

Keep deflecting.

If you don’t have the courage to admit what you do, when it’s so clearly spelled out, then you’re obviously not mature to understand. You clearly have some growing up to do.

/shrug

The purpose of this discussion was to express just how much dominance white people have in all matters of wealth and influence and government power. This shit has not been good for people of color.

Race not being a factor is a fantasy at this point, which perhaps someday can be achieved but hasn't yet.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nah, it's not a strawman. He made a really damn good point.

It is people in power which is the problem not their races.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
nib, please answer this question:

Again, using stats/number to justify racism is exactly I just said.

My answer? Why does the color matter? The color should not matter as marbles are marbles. Get rid of cracked ones.

Humans are not defined by our color. As a minority myself, this is the reality I strive for. If you cannot see past the color of your own skin, that is your failing, not mine.