Originally posted by Emperordmb
Should a gay baker be forced to bake a cake for someone ordering it for a Westboro Baptist Church party?
If they're asking for a cake he's already similarly baked for someone else, there shouldn't be a problem.
If the WBC asked for a "God Hates Phags" cake, that's offensive. No different than if the gay couple had asked for a "Christianity Causes Rape" cake and the baker refused, no one would have a problem with that.
Originally posted by Robtard
No one knows except that baker. So go on with your imagination debates.What if a Unicorn asked for a cake and said it's for a Chimera wedding?
I forgot that hypotheticals trigger the hell out of you.
I dunno, are unicorns protected classes? Is it a leftist doing the denying? Cuz if it is, it's okay. Just like bigotry and racism is okay if it's from the left. I need more details.
Originally posted by SurturI love how you assume "the left" because gay man.
I always love when the left pulls similar shit and then tries to spin it. It's always different lol, always.This is the same side that says Trumpers refuse to take responsibility for things, lol. Too funny.
But it's not the same, the people were not kicked out solely because they were Christians, no matter how hard you try and spin that.
Originally posted by Robtard
I love how you assume "the left" because gay man.But it's not the same, the people were not kicked out solely because they were Christians, no matter how hard you try and spin that.
I assume "the left" because you. Of course the weasel who did this thinks it is different, But he's not the only one.
Originally posted by Robtard
If they're asking for a cake he's already similarly baked for someone else, there shouldn't be a problem.If the WBC asked for a "God Hates Phags" cake, that's offensive. No different than if the gay couple had asked for a "Christianity Causes Rape" cake and the baker refused, no one would have a problem with that.
IMO they don't. You don't have a right to someone else's labor unless it's subsidized by your taxes or unless you engaged in a transaction where they've already taken your money and owe you shit. A person has every right to control who they do or don't do business with, or what they do with their labor and property because that's what it means to be a free individual.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I disagree with you, I think the gay baker should have every right to not associate his labor and business with an event he finds morally objectionable. It's his labor, why does the WBC have a right to his labor and its fruits?IMO they don't. You don't have a right to someone else's labor unless it's subsidized by your taxes or unless you engaged in a transaction where they've already taken your money and owe you shit. A person has every right to control who they do or don't do business with, or what they do with their labor and property because that's what it means to be a free individual.
Bingo. And I have seen utterly insane responses to this like "oh now this will make people discriminate against blacks!!!".
Lol, that doesn't make any actual sense. WHAT religion discriminates against blacks? Especially Christianity. There are racist religious people, but what in the bible is anti black?
Originally posted by EmperordmbWe've done this already; while I agree with you in theory, I'd prefer not open up the discrimination doors and we go back to a "Whites Only" type of society. Seems rather ugly.
I disagree with you, I think the gay baker should have every right to not associate his labor and business with an event he finds morally objectionable. It's his labor, why does the WBC have a right to his labor and its fruits?IMO they don't. You don't have a right to someone else's labor unless it's subsidized by your taxes or unless you engaged in a transaction where they've already taken your money and owe you shit. A person has every right to control who they do or don't do business with, or what they do with their labor and property because that's what it means to be a free individual.
Originally posted by Surtur
Bingo. And I have seen utterly insane responses to this like "oh now this will make people discriminate against blacks!!!".Lol, that doesn't make any actual sense. WHAT religion discriminates against blacks? Especially Christianity. There are racist religious people, but what in the bible is anti black?
Wait, so you're saying if the baker didn't have a "cos muh religion" angle, he could't refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, religion being the factor in refusal? LoL.