Kylo Ren vs. Count Dooku

Started by juggernaut7412 pages

Luke was making Kylo look like the fool he is. Finn don't know jack shit about Luke or what he can do so why in the hell does he know?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Luke was making Kylo look like the fool he is. Finn don't know jack shit about Luke or what he can do so why in the hell does he know?
He dodged him and was a projection. Kylo already bested him after a nap so who cares.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He dodged him and was a projection. Kylo already bested him after a nap so who cares.
Kylo cheapshotted Luke when he was having 2nd thoughts and then ran away like a coward.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Kylo cheapshotted Luke when he was having 2nd thoughts and then ran away like a coward.
He woke up and creepy uncle Luke was having creepy thoughts. Luke got owned. He failed him. He was shamed. He also lost. He was later suicidal and wanted to just die. What a pitiful guy. He also apologized to Kylo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He woke up and creepy uncle Luke was having creepy thoughts. Luke got owned. He failed him. He was shamed. He also lost. He was later suicidal and wanted to just die. What a pitiful guy. He also apologized to Kylo.
Is that how you perceive beating somebody?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Is that how you perceive beating somebody?
Beating someone and going on to kill his other Jedi is how you beat someone into the first and then rub it in. Poor Luke didn't want to live after that failure.

But Kylo didn't beat anybody, he just brought down the ceiling on him and ran away.

It wasn't even a real fight.

Who has Kylo faced who had duelist with actual lightsaber experience let alone the likes of Obi-Wan or Yoda?

Originally posted by Bentley
Who has Kylo faced who had duelist with actual lightsaber experience let alone the likes of Obi-Wan or Yoda?
Nobody, that's why Snoke was mocking him.

Hux don't respect Ren at all, let me quote the The Visual Dictionary:

"Hux loathes Kylo Ren, and takes pleasure both in Kylo's failures and Snoke's anger with his apprentice. The fact that Kylo had to be rescued from Starkiller Base after being bested by a lightsaber novice delights the young general."

Seems poor Kylo can get no respect.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
But Kylo didn't beat anybody, he just brought down the ceiling on him and ran away.

It wasn't even a real fight.

He won the exchange and left him for dead. Luke survived. Ben didn't need much to defeat Luke.

Originally posted by Bentley
Who has Kylo faced who had duelist with actual lightsaber experience let alone the likes of Obi-Wan or Yoda?
Luke Skywalker the guy who defeated Darth Vader. He didn't only defeat him he stomped a mud hole in him and after he won the duel tossed his lightsaber aside because he wasn't going to give into his hatred any further.

Dooku throws a Vader mug in a crate.

Kylo jumps into crate.

Crate closes.

VICTORY

That would probably work, Kylo is pretty dumb.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
That would probably work, Kylo is pretty dumb.
He beat Luke. Facts matter not your bias.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He beat Luke. Facts matter not your bias.

Yep. And Uhura beat Khan’s ass.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yep. And Uhura beat Khan’s ass.
Unarmed Khan and even then she couldn't best him. Context matters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Context matters.

Irony 101

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Irony 101
I do not ignore or attempt to misrepresent context. That's your m.o.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I do not ignore or attempt to misrepresent context. That's your m.o.

Except you just did.

Me? Lol. You're known for that fool!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except you just did.

Me? Lol. You're known for that fool!

Give a specific example. Quit throwing out vague comments like Trump. Actually attempt to debate for a change.