Ozymandias vs. Black Panther

Same circumstances Bucky faced on the stair fight.

T'Challa doesn't have his suit.

Who wins?

No suit?

Ozymandias stomps.

If we assume BP has durability, endurance on par with Bucky and Cap, he wins eventually.

I make this assumption based on him having the same foot and combat speed.

My initial instinct is to say Ozy, but then I remembered that Ozy was never tested against a enhanced/superpowered opponent.

Panther wins; hes Cap level and Ozy is a step below that

T'Challa had Bucky on the run in a suit and dress shoes. My vote is with Panther in a hard fight.

Tough one. T'Challa has limited feats without his suit, but Ozy's only fought people below Super Soldier level. I'd be inclined to back T'Challa, because the guy took an explosion and a metal arm haymaker from Bucky without serious injury, so Ozy will struggle to put him down. It'd be a good fight though.

Ozy loses after a tough fight

Originally posted by John Murdoch
T'Challa had Bucky on the run in a suit and dress shoes. My vote is with Panther in a hard fight.

T'Challa didn't have Bucky on the run, he was brain washed in Winter Soldier mode, T'Challa had nothing to do with Bucky trying to escape.

Regardless, BP still wins.

Originally posted by Impediment
No suit?

Ozymandias stomps.

Something to consider: T'Challa took a direct punch to the chest from Bucky's robo arm and it didn't do any lasting damage on him. That arm is strong enough to punch cracks in the street. I don't think Ozy can match that kind of strength output. He might not be strong enough to take down T'Challa.

What's with the resurgence of Ozy love, last I checked board consensus was that he was a solid step below Captain America level.

Originally posted by FrothByte
My initial instinct is to say Ozy, but then I remembered that Ozy was never tested against a enhanced/superpowered opponent.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What's with the resurgence of Ozy love, last I checked board consensus was that he was a solid step below Captain America level.

I disagree.
I would say he’s roughly 40-60% of his physical strength, 120-180% of his h2h skill, and 200-500% of his hand movement speed and perception speed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Something to consider: T'Challa took a direct punch to the chest from Bucky's robo arm and it didn't do any lasting damage on him. That arm is strong enough to punch cracks in the street. I don't think Ozy can match that kind of strength output. He might not be strong enough to take down T'Challa.

Bucky could have struck ANY HUMAN in the movie with his metal arm and at most, that human would be koed (not killed or bones broken). That’s how movies and fiction roll.

^ Tony got punched by Bucky's human arm and was floored.

Originally posted by FrothByte
^ Tony got punched by Bucky's human arm and was floored.

I know. But Bucky is supposedly superhuman right? Almost equal to Cap in physical stats.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree.
I would say he’s roughly 40-60% of his physical strength, 120-180% of his h2h skill, and 200-500% of his hand movement speed and perception speed.

Yea. but given your level of bias. nobody cares what you think.

Originally posted by h1a8
I know. But Bucky is supposedly superhuman right? Almost equal to Cap in physical stats.

And that's why Tony got floored. Regular humans won't get floored from a punch to the chest even from a trained heavyweight if they're actively fighting back. It can hurt, and there's even a chance that it can damage your heart, but you're not getting floored like that.

And considering that Tony has some degree of h2h training, that punch made it obvious that WS was superhuman in strength.

Also Bucky was clearly trying to escape in that scene. If he'd hit Tony like he hit the containment unit, or as hard as he's hit Cap, Tony would be dead. So would WIdow and 13.