Ozymandias vs. Black Panther

Originally posted by Surtur
Eh, wasn't he though? For the purposes of the story everyone is human and has no powers, save for Doc M. Yet...the people Ozy stomps in the movie are kinda like Batman, in the sense that they are supposed to be normal humans, but they do things no real world person could do.

I'm not saying the people he beat were Cap level, but they sure did seem above real world humans.

They were at about the level of high-end fighters like Black Widow or Daredevil. And we saw how easily WS took out BW. He took out BW far easier than Ozy took out Comedian.

And in the end, Comedian, Night Owl and Rosch are just that: high end humans. They are not enhanced like Cap or Bucky - both of whom were people TChalla fought against. He even got the upper hand against Bucky. And that's the point I was trying to make: Ozy has never been tested against an opponent of superhuman stats who was near his equal. It's easy to look good when you're so much more physically superior to your opponent.

Originally posted by Surtur
Eh, wasn't he though? For the purposes of the story everyone is human and has no powers, save for Doc M. Yet...the people Ozy stomps in the movie are kinda like Batman, in the sense that they are supposed to be normal humans, but they do things no real world person could do.

I'm not saying the people he beat were Cap level, but they sure did seem above real world humans.

They only ever beat low-end fodder. Ozy beating them isn't really that impressive.

Ozy is quite a bit faster, it seems. At least in reaction time.

Not sure how to compate their physical stats, though.

BP is seemingly betting a power-boost in his solo film, so this thread should be revisited after that.

Originally posted by Stigma
Ozy is quite a bit faster, it seems. At least in reaction time.

Not sure how to compate their physical stats, though.

In what hth fight did Ozy use his so-called superior speed?

Well, he does have that bullet catching feat. So clearly he has somewhat super speed, at least in reaction time.

He was casually owning Nite Owl and Rorschach but was never pressed to use it, it seems.

Bucky blocked bullets with his arm from assault rifles. He did what Ozy did but way better. Panther had him on the ropes.

Originally posted by Stigma
Well, he does have that bullet catching feat. So clearly he has somewhat super speed, at least in reaction time.

He was casually owning Nite Owl and Rorschach but was never pressed to use it, it seems.

The bullet catch feat was a one off that happened outside of combat, plus he had plenty of time to prepare and knew where it was aimed.

He didn't show any impressive speed in that fight. in fact his speed seemed to be well below BP's fighting speed.

Hard to say

DC is ridiculously inconsistent when displaying speed feats. This is true for the DCEU, pre-DCEU movies, even in their CW series.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The bullet catch feat was a one off that happened outside of combat, plus he had plenty of time to prepare and knew where it was aimed.

He didn't show any impressive speed in that fight. in fact his speed seemed to be well below BP's fighting speed.

Preparation and knowing where the gun is aimed doesn't help catch a bullet without superhuman hand speed and visual perception of the bullet in flight.

In his fight against Note Owl and Rorshach, Ozy casually blocked and parried everything thrown at him. Plus it's way harder defending against two than one. T'Challa got tagged by Bucky.

These facts suggest that Ozy is significantly faster than T'Challa in hand speed and perception speed.

Originally posted by KingD19
Bucky blocked bullets with his arm from assault rifles. He did what Ozy did but way better. Panther had him on the ropes.

Originally posted by h1a8
Preparation and knowing where the gun is aimed doesn't help catch a bullet without superhuman hand speed and visual perception of the bullet in flight.

In his fight against Note Owl and Rorshach, Ozy casually blocked and parried everything thrown at him. Plus it's way harder defending against two than one. T'Challa got tagged by Bucky.

These facts suggest that Ozy is significantly faster than T'Challa in hand speed and perception speed.

Holding an arm up to block bullets only takes human level reactions. Bucky never reacted to the bullet after it entered the air.

Let the downplaying of everyone else and wanking of Ozy begin.

You heard it here first folks, H1 doesn't believe that having time to prepare and knowing something's course would help you catch it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You heard it here first folks, H1 doesn't believe that having time to prepare and knowing something's course would help you catch it.

It won't help a human one bit. A human cannot perceive the flight of a bullet.
Even if the human knows the exact moment that the bullet will be fired and the exact trajectory then they still will be helplessly frozen in time when the bullet enters the air AND they won't be able to follow it (or even see it) during the entire flight.

Therefore Ozy had to have superhuman perception and hand speed to achieve the feat.

Yes or no, did having time to prepare and knowing its trajectory help in the catch?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes or no, did having time to prepare and knowing its trajectory help in the catch?

Trolling and derailing the thread?
The bullet catch proves that Ozy has superhuman hand speed and perception. That's the whole point.

Originally posted by h1a8
Trolling and derailing the thread?
The bullet catch proves that Ozy has superhuman hand speed and perception. That's the whole point.

Discussing a feat is not derailing a thread. Now answer the question.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Discussing a feat is not derailing a thread. Now answer the question.

Originally posted by h1a8
It won't help a human one bit. A human cannot perceive the flight of a bullet.
Even if the human knows the exact moment that the bullet will be fired and the exact trajectory then they still will be helplessly frozen in time when the bullet enters the air AND they won't be able to follow it (or even see it) during the entire flight.

Therefore Ozy had to have superhuman perception and hand speed to achieve the feat.

Since you seem to have forgotten what the question was, I'll repeat it.

Yes or no, did having time to prepare and knowing its trajectory help in the catch?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since you seem to have forgotten what the question was, I'll repeat it.

Yes or no, did having time to prepare and knowing its trajectory help in the catch?