I mean, there wasn’t really anyone else to make much of an impact on the Force on either side. Luke went AWOL and cut himself off from the Force, all of the Jedi died, and the only significant trained Force user was Snoke. Kylo joining the dark side would obviously tilt the scales much further even if he wasn’t on the level of, say, Darth Maul. The impact and damage Kylo could do based on the lack of significant opposition and the potential of his actualized abilities made the polarization of the Force more extreme. That’s how I interpreted what I think you’re referring to, anyways.
Originally posted by The EllimistA lot of things in this movie have no basis whatsoever in either common sense (how does one "drop" bombs in space without gravity?) or the canon. Rey has virtually no training (18 hours give or take of mostly self-discipline if we go by the movie timeline), but is able to best opponents even Kylo (years of training and refinement) has difficulty with. If it were that easy, Anakin by AOTC should have been waltzing around on Abeloth levels. TLJ is just not a well written movie. Yoda's line may be BS, but it's canon so . . . 😕
lmao if Rey had already reached/neared her peak why was she begging Luke to teach her? And why was she unable to do basic things like Force meditate properly without supervision? Assuming you're being serious, your entire case is based on the notion that "your training is complete" == "you've reached your max potential", which has no basis whatsoever in either common sense or the canon, given that Luke wasn't at his peak in RotJ, nor was Obi Wan in AotC.
Oh, and there are obvious reasons for Rey's potential to be high, like that she's explicitly a pseudo-chosen one to balance Kylo Ren and because Luke said she had lots of raw power. Which in a galaxy you'll find once in a while from a random person; there's no indication Yoda, Windu, etc. had Force-important parents.Nowhere in the canon could you ever get away with such minimal training in the fashion Rey has, choosen one or not.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
A lot of things in this movie have no basis whatsoever in either common sense (how does one "drop" bombs in space without gravity?) or the canon. Rey has virtually no training (18 hours give or take of mostly self-discipline if we go by the movie timeline), but is able to best opponents even Kylo (years of training and refinement) has difficulty with. If it were that easy, Anakin by AOTC should have been waltzing around on Abeloth levels. TLJ is just not a well written movie. Yoda's line may be BS, but it's canon so . . . 😕Nowhere in the canon could you ever get away with such minimal training in the fashion Rey has, choosen one or not.
What's worse is that I think those bombers the Resistance used seemed more for atmospheric places than space, because there's zero use for them to be used in space as they need to be directly over the target, I think they drop though and the bombs magnetically get pulled to their target, or so the page says.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
A lot of things in this movie have no basis whatsoever in either common sense (how does one "drop" bombs in space without gravity?) or the canon. Rey has virtually no training (18 hours give or take of mostly self-discipline if we go by the movie timeline), but is able to best opponents even Kylo (years of training and refinement) has difficulty with. If it were that easy, Anakin by AOTC should have been waltzing around on Abeloth levels. TLJ is just not a well written movie. Yoda's line may be BS, but it's canon so . . . 😕
Originally posted by Zenwolf
What's worse is that I think those bombers the Resistance used seemed more for atmospheric places than space, because there's zero use for them to be used in space as they need to be directly over the target, I think they drop though and the bombs magnetically get pulled to their target, or so the page says.
Yeah, but as you point out they could've just been long range missiles.
The biggest military plot hole (among the thousand that exist) is that apparently you can destroy an entire fleet with lightspeed ramming but nobody's ever thought to just rig a bunch of autopiloted ships to spam this.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yeah, but as you point out they could've just been long range missiles.The biggest military plot hole (among the thousand that exist) is that apparently you can destroy an entire fleet with lightspeed ramming but nobody's ever thought to just rig a bunch of autopiloted ships to spam this.
The Japanese did.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Gravity well projectors?
Why didn't the FO have any with them, and if they knew they didn't why didn't they anticipate this / why wasn't this the Rebels' first instinct?
We also see ships jumping in and out of hyperspace right next to enemy fleets plenty of times, so there's no reason why they can't get a bunch of autopiloted freighters to kill any fleet instantly. It literally breaks every space battle.
But yeah, best way to get out of that mess is something like interdictors + just assume everyone there had a brain fart or that there was some subplot where the FO's interdictors got disabled.
Originally posted by The EllimistProvided you can afford to waste bunch of massive capital-class cruisers, yeah.
Yeah, but as you point out they could've just been long range missiles.The biggest military plot hole (among the thousand that exist) is that apparently you can destroy an entire fleet with lightspeed ramming but nobody's ever thought to just rig a bunch of autopiloted ships to spam this.
Regardless in Legends lightspeed ramming can fracture planetary cores, an active fusion reactor impacting at faster than the speed of light would do that, kek.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Why didn't the FO have any with them, and if they knew they didn't why didn't they anticipate this / why wasn't this the Rebels' first instinct?We also see ships jumping in and out of hyperspace right next to enemy fleets plenty of times, so there's no reason why they can't get a bunch of autopiloted freighters to kill any fleet instantly. It literally breaks every space battle.
Same applies for the shields.
When Holdo began to slowly turn the Radius, Hux didn't think anything of it until it was too late. We don't know how long it takes to turn on and off gravity well projectors.
That being said, this has always been an issue.