SOR Revan vs Karness Muur

Originally posted by AncientPower
Exar Kun never attended the Jedi Enclave on Dantooine nor took on any of those masters during his training. Exar Kun studied solely under Master Baas, the sole Watchman of the planet at the time.

Stop lying.

"At the same time, many of the era's worst dark siders come from the enclave, including Exar Kun, Darth Revan, and Darth Malak."

―Star Wars: Jedi Academy Training Manual

https://imgur.com/dD7WQO7

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Because he was?

Most powerful force user to ever come out of the dantooine enclave, which included ****ing Exar Kun, who shits on the ancient Sith asides from Vitiate.

I agree. Should have beeb more clear.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Stop lying.

"At the same time, many of the era's worst dark siders come from the enclave, including Exar Kun, Darth Revan, and Darth Malak."

―Star Wars: Jedi Academy Training Manual

https://imgur.com/dD7WQO7

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It's wrong, the Enclave isn't even built until after Baas dies.

SOR Revan > DE Sidious

Revan's durability and offensive demonstrations of power out do anything DE Sidious ever did.

GG. No RE. The Board Walker has spoken.

Originally posted by Board Walker
SOR Revan > DE Sidious

Revan's durability and offensive demonstrations of power out do anything DE Sidious ever did.

lol

Originally posted by AncientPower
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It's wrong, the Enclave isn't even built until after Baas dies.

Lol, you realise the entire Jedi High Council is slaughtered besides Thon. The era of Jedi Watchmen overseeing planets by themselves, as Baas and the like had done, was over.

The entire Jedi Order went through a reformation as was started by Nomi and was followed through as seen in the KotOR comics; where the Covenant went overboard, was designed to prevent the rise of more dark siders. They formed a new Enclave on Dantooine from the new Jedi Council.

You realise that even Vrook Lamar was only in his mid-fifties by KotOR, making him a child during the Great Sith War. Jolee Bindo is nearly seventy by KotOR and he was a teenager in Kun's day.

Stop trying to use a character opinion to claim Revan > Kun, when multiple sources point to Kun > Vitiate.

Kreia was more interested in Revan's ideologies. He was also the most formidable force wielder of the era bar perhaps Nihilus.

Nihilus is undoubtedly more powerful, as is Vitiate.

I didn't include Vitiate since Kreia does not know about him.

She actually kind of does, she spends the entire game preparing the Exile to help Revan face him. She goes on to become the Emperor's spiritual consort to boot.

She has no real gauge of Vitiate's powers, but she probably knows it's beyond Revan.

Honestly if accolades didn't exist I'd put Nihilus above Vitiate.

She knows he may well be more powerful than Nihilus, at least. But yes.

I guess Nihilus doesn't have many showings of his power.

I mean, he can drain worlds of the force without a struggle [at least, it isn't implied. It's more likely that the hunger makes it easier for him].

Originally posted by samappo
I guess Nihilus doesn't have many showings of his power.

He has quite a few. Eating planets, apparently holding the Ravager together, apparently TK'ing it out of Malachor (some of these feats are a little debatable), etc.

Hardly, Nihilus has the best TK feats in the mythos. He pulled his entire fleet out of the gravity wells of Malachor V. Also his powers could destroy Citadel Station, which could largely survive the impact of the Ravager crashing into it.

But Vitiate has scaling over the likes of the ancient Sith sorceress whose Ambria ritual surpassed Sadow using the Corsair to destroy suns. Vitiate also has the fact that he went from requiring a 30 day ritual with the aid of 8,000 Sith Lords to destroy Nathema, to being able to do the same without aid or a ritual and as a mere spirit too.

I mean, Kreia implies that he would just scale out of control if not stopped. Even then, he was only beaten through the connection he had to his apprentice. So in a one on one situation, I think he trumps anyone except Vitiate/Palpatine.