Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL at you for saying facts don't prove anything. Until you decide to actually acknowledge the evidence all further replies will just be me calling you a troll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j10cLQFAq1w
Unless you can prove that the lightning that impact Ultron can cause such a damage, the only troll here is you .
And don't even bother bringing New York's lightning or Asgard's! Clearly the lightning Thor used against Ultron is much much much smaller!!!
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j10cLQFAq1wUnless you can prove that the lightning that impact Ultron can cause such a damage, [B] the only troll here is you
.And don't even bother bringing New York's lightning or Asgard's! Clearly the lightning Thor used against Ultron is much much much smaller!!! [/B]
I've countered your evidence.
Now is time for you to address this statement.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No you haven't, you have provided zero Cyclops feats that even come close to Thor's. Just saying you've countered something doesn't make it so troll boy.
Ohhh really!!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2KrQgjU0ZM [1:50]
How about MK 6 Gold Titanium alloy (Which should be weaker than Vibranium) withstanding a more powerful Lightning from Thor??
Adamantium Mega Stomps Vibranium.
Tony was able to absorb it that's why it didn't do more damage and even then 1) he was hit by only a fraction of the amount of lightning Ultron was. 2) Ultron was also hit with an Infinity Gem and Iron Man's repulsors. You are really bad at this.
Besides, none of this proves your claim that Cyclops is optic blast is of similar strength.
Keep trying troll boy
Originally posted by Silent Master
Tony was able to absorb it that's why it didn't do more damage and even then 1) he was hit by only a fraction of the amount of lightning Ultron was. 2) Ultron was also hit with an Infinity Gem and Iron Man's repulsors. You are really bad at this.Besides, none of this proves your claim that Cyclops is optic blast is of similar strength.
Keep trying troll boy
Ohh yeah, Vibranium should absorb energy better than Gold Titanium alloy!!! Yet it melted in Age of Ultron! You are failing, or should i say trolling?
No, the lightning received by IM was stronger. Thor even summoned the Lightning from the sky, just like in New York and Asgard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKMdYbOfFzI
I didn't see the Empire State's roof being destroyed as that school was by Cyclop's beam.
😂 I am demolishing your points.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you're making a fool of yourself and proving to everyone you do not understand context or how to compare feats in an unbiased manner.
You have just proven to everyone your incompetence by not being able to address my evidence.
Furthermore, you proved a troll by avoiding what is clear.
Not wasting my time with a Troll! Chao chao.
But hey, if a certain troll wants to try and lowball Thor by bringing up Iron Man armours, I can just post this. It doesn't just take out the reactor. It melts the surrounding armour as well. The armour based on Tony's own gold-titanium suits:
Vision also used his beam to slice clean through an airport tower. In comparison, the beam alone could do little more than push Ultron back. It was only after all 3 added their power that it started having an effect.
And, as I pointed out, by character statements (which said troll loves to bring up when it suits him), Ultron wasn't even pure Vibranium.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
A few things:- Ultron was not pure Vibranium. His shell was described as a "Vibranium cocktail" by IM.
- It took the combined power of Thor, Vision and Iron Man to damage him.To ignore these things and act like Thor's lightning alone melted pure Vibranium is being intellectually dishonest.
- Black Panther's suit isn't pure Vibranium neither.
- Who is ignoring it?
No one said that it was the lightning alone that melted the Vibranium.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
But hey, if a certain troll wants to try and lowball Thor by bringing up Iron Man armours, I can just post this. It doesn't just take out the reactor. It melts the surrounding armour as well. The armour based on Tony's own gold-titanium suits:Vision also used his beam to slice clean through an airport tower. In comparison, the beam alone could do little more than push Ultron back. It was only after all 3 added their power that it started having an effect.
And, as I pointed out, by character statements (which said troll loves to bring up when it suits him), Ultron wasn't even pure Vibranium.
Your ignorance has been noticed.
1. The beam didn't damage the suit (metal) but rather the Reactor.
You decided then to remove everything else from the video, and posted only the part where the beam destroys the reactor. Let me fix your mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGa4rE-ACCI
2. The beam didn't penetrate the suit. Else Rhodes wouldn't be talking to Tony while falling!
It's clear that the Reactor was the only thing damaged.
3. You are so ignorant you forget that the War Machine suit isn't as durable as Tony's latest suits.
Conclusion: Vision didn't penetrated the suit. It was the reactor that he luckily destroyed.
Iron Man's suits are considerably more durable than the War Machines suit.
One way or another. There is no real way to compare both feats.
Cyclops beams were unable to destroy Wolverine's Claws.
Ultron's suit melted to IM's, Thor's, and Vision's attacks.
How to compare these feats?
We've seen Thor's lightning to be useless against armors (e.g. Avengers - Forest fight).
Vision only destroyed the reactor. Doesn't mean he can penetrate the suit.
If Vibranium is as strong as you claim it to be, it shouldn't have melted in that scene.
Based on logic Vibranium SHOULD> Iron Man's or War Machine's suit. However it still burst and melted to these attacks.
^ Doesn't really matter in the end because both combatants are not fighting with energy weapons. Cap's shield took a full hit from Mjolnir and wasn't dented. So it doesn't matter how tough you think Adamantium is, bottomline is that Wolverine won't be strong enough to penetrate vibranium... unless you'd like to claim he's stronger than Thor?