Obi-Wan and Darth Maul vs. Count Dooku

There's a strong argument that the opposite is true.

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight

Besides, this is TPM Maul. Someone I consider to be noticeably, if not significantly inferior to TCW Maul in the relevant aspects.

I mean aside from superior TK Feats, I really don’t see why people have all jumped on this idea that a Maul with no extra training or knowledge and whose lost half his body and was out of practice for 10+ years, is somehow >>> Maul how he was originally.

At least in Canon. I know Legends had TCW Maul randomly being “more powerful” but even that was never really quantified or given a reasonable explanation as to how.

Dooku stomps

Obi Wan has always been susceptible to TK; Maul gets him with it in TPM and Dooku gets him in ROTS

Maul solos.

@Thor because Maul is older, wiser and much more rage filled than he originally was... I mean he was almost a mute in ep 1 and all of a sudden hes a schemer and a leader in TCW, dont let the state hes found in fool you; clearly he developed in some ways over the 10 years he was away

Originally posted by AncientPower
He caught Kenobi off-guard with the Force, he himself concedes that he'd never be able to penetrate his Soresu.

Yes, in a duel Dooku gets stonewalled by Kenobi. In the Force, Dooku can only incapacitate him by doing essentially what would take out anyone. Catching him off-guard.

In other words, Dooku was certainly lucky.

Dooku takes this. Even in the late Clone Wars Dooku absolutely rapes Kenobi with kicks and grabs alone even without abusing his force advantage. And Maul is no match for Dooku alone.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He caught Kenobi off-guard with the Force, he himself concedes that he'd never be able to penetrate his Soresu.

That's one interpretation of RotS that isn't agreed with by anything else, and at least one source disagrees.

Originally posted by AncientPower
In the Force, Dooku can only incapacitate him by doing essentially what would take out anyone. Catching him off-guard.

If you want to make an argument for Kenobi being too powerful for Dooku to ragdoll, you're better off using this:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/lordofthelight/blog/why-was-obi-wan-kenobi-able-to-contend-with-darth-/132468/

Dooku should be able to ragdoll them both, he'd lose a lightsabers only fight though.

Originally posted by relentless1
@Thor because Maul is older, wiser and much more rage filled than he originally was... I mean he was almost a mute in ep 1 and all of a sudden hes a schemer and a leader in TCW, dont let the state hes found in fool you; clearly he developed in some ways over the 10 years he was away

Lol he only increased in rage. But he needs that Just to (sort of) compensate for the half body he lost, and still needed time to get his skillz back. He was mentally and physically challenged when Savage found him, so no he wasn’t “developing” Lol.

Just because we didn’t see him speak in TPM, doesn’t mean he couldn’t/wouldn’t under other circumstances.

All the scheming and planning he does in TCW stems from his trading under Palpatine pre-TPM.

Dooku mauls them with full powers. Obi-Wan carries the saber fight.

Originally posted by Bentley
Dooku mauls them with full powers. Obi-Wan carries the saber fight.

Obi-Wan at RoTS did beat Vader which is something I don't think Maul could replicate. His defensive style and experience is a much needed asset to match Dooku, who is strong at finding openings in his opponents.

Nova still in denial.

I've always wondered, if Vader lost a lot of force potential from losing limbs, did Maul lost some of his connection when his lower half got chopped off?

Originally posted by samappo
I've always wondered, if Vader lost a lot of force potential from losing limbs, did Maul lost some of his connection when his lower half got chopped off?

According to Chee no.

Originally posted by Bentley
Obi-Wan at RoTS did beat Vader which is something I don't think Maul could replicate. His defensive style and experience is a much needed asset to match Dooku, who is strong at finding openings in his opponents.

Makashi is perfectly suited to take down Soresu.

[QUOTE=16455447]Originally posted by Greysentinel365
[B]According to Chee no.
Shit really? That's kinda stupid then... I always assumed he had.